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Re: Current OoM
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:16 pm
by PT13
thegentle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:14 pm
A more sensible conversation would be where he fits in on an all-time list of players never to win the Worlds. I don't know too much about the pre-split era, but a TV title, as well as a final at Ally Pally and Lakeside must have him well up there
Dave Whitcombe and Mike Gregory stand out as the best pre-split players not to be world champion. Bobby George is in there too.
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:18 pm
by The Thorn
thegentle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:14 pm
A more sensible conversation would be where he fits in on an all-time list of players never to win the Worlds. I don't know too much about the pre-split era, but a TV title, as well as a final at Ally Pally and Lakeside must have him well up there
According to the 2020 TDF poll:
1. James Wade
2. Robert Thornton
3. Rod Harrington
4. Colin Lloyd
5. Alan Warriner-Little
6. Simon Whitlock
7. Mervyn King
8. Daryl Gurney
9. Peter Evison
10. Peter Manley
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:19 pm
by The Thorn
On reflection to the above, we missed Bobby George, while Luke Humphries is swiftly climbing the list.
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:19 pm
by Dfc180
The Thorn wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:18 pm
thegentle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:14 pm
A more sensible conversation would be where he fits in on an all-time list of players never to win the Worlds. I don't know too much about the pre-split era, but a TV title, as well as a final at Ally Pally and Lakeside must have him well up there
According to the 2020 TDF poll:
1. James Wade
2. Robert Thornton
3. Rod Harrington
4. Colin Lloyd
5. Alan Warriner-Little
6. Simon Whitlock
7. Mervyn King
8. Daryl Gurney
9. Peter Evison
10. Peter Manley
That won't have changed much either to be honest. Asp would be ahead of him now
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:28 pm
by DeepFriedRat
Dfc180 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:19 pm
The Thorn wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:18 pm
thegentle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:14 pm
A more sensible conversation would be where he fits in on an all-time list of players never to win the Worlds. I don't know too much about the pre-split era, but a TV title, as well as a final at Ally Pally and Lakeside must have him well up there
According to the 2020 TDF poll:
1. James Wade
2. Robert Thornton
3. Rod Harrington
4. Colin Lloyd
5. Alan Warriner-Little
6. Simon Whitlock
7. Mervyn King
8. Daryl Gurney
9. Peter Evison
10. Peter Manley
That won't have changed much either to be honest. Asp would be ahead of him now
Johnston Clayton slotted in between King and Gurney
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:32 pm
by HalloweenJack
The Thorn wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:18 pm
thegentle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:14 pm
A more sensible conversation would be where he fits in on an all-time list of players never to win the Worlds. I don't know too much about the pre-split era, but a TV title, as well as a final at Ally Pally and Lakeside must have him well up there
According to the 2020 TDF poll:
1. James Wade
2. Robert Thornton
3. Rod Harrington
4. Colin Lloyd
5. Alan Warriner-Little
6. Simon Whitlock
7. Mervyn King
8. Daryl Gurney
9. Peter Evison
10. Peter Manley
Shows some peoples lack of knowledge and ignorance to not have Dave Whitcombe on that list. He won two masters when Bristow was in his pomp and 2 runners up. I would argue only Wade and Harrington and possibly Thornton are better players.
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:41 pm
by PT13
Bristow said that Whitcombe had started out-psyching him before the 1984 World Championship final. Whitcombe would just sit down relaxing while Bristow practiced in the hours before the final. Bristow was expecting Whitcombe to start practicing but Whitcombe continued to sit down and seemed in his own world. Eventually, Whitcombe got up, practiced for 10 minutes and then sat down again. Bristow said he was spooked by it. It was a close match in the early sets, and Bristow won a close set to make 3-1, if I remember right, and from then on Bristow raced away to a 7-1 win.
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:57 pm
by Emulsfier
Puke is number 1.
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:57 pm
by The Thorn
Emulsfier wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:57 pm
Puke is number 1.
Well deserved
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:58 pm
by thegentle
Not that it matters, but we have a new world #1 in Luke Humphries
Littler in the top 32, Williams' defeat means that the top 8 is set
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:58 pm
by Emulsfier
thegentle wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:58 pm
Not that it matters, but we have a new world #1 in Luke Humphries
Littler in the top 32, Williams' defeat means that the top 8 is set
Too slow nerd.
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:58 pm
by Jimmi
PT13 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:41 pm
Bristow said that Whitcombe had started out-psyching him before the 1984 World Championship final. Whitcombe would just sit down relaxing while Bristow practiced in the hours before the final. Bristow was expecting Whitcombe to start practicing but Whitcombe continued to sit down and seemed in his own world. Eventually, Whitcombe got up, practiced for 10 minutes and then sat down again. Bristow said he was spooked by it. It was a close match in the early sets, and Bristow won a close set to make 3-1, if I remember right, and from then on Bristow raced away to a 7-1 win.
Pretty sure he talks about this in his book
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:59 pm
by tungsten tossers
Emulsfier wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:57 pm
Puke is number 1.
18 game winning streak going into a world final
By far the best player this year
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:01 am
by Emulsfier
tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:59 pm
Emulsfier wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:57 pm
Puke is number 1.
18 game winning streak going into a world final
By far the best player this year
Only the Goblin and Taylor can compare.
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:02 am
by thegentle
Curiously Aspinall rises two spots despite losing in his first game, up to #4 which I believe is a new high for him?
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:07 am
by TheMalteseDart
Well deserved. Matchplay is one of the hardest tournaments to win. ‘Perceptive’
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:09 am
by shenmue
thegentle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:02 am
Curiously Aspinall rises two spots despite losing in his first game, up to #4 which I believe is a new high for him?
A new low for this great game, hope he slides down and fast.
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:09 am
by DeepFriedRat
TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:07 am
Well deserved. Matchplay is one of the hardest tournaments to win. ‘Perceptive’
Tinpot player
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:09 am
by DeepFriedRat
shenmue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:09 am
thegentle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:02 am
Curiously Aspinall rises two spots despite losing in his first game, up to #4 which I believe is a new high for him?
A new low for this great game, hope he slides down and fast.
Excellent post
Re: Current OoM
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:10 am
by TheMalteseDart
DeepFriedRat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:09 am
TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:07 am
Well deserved. Matchplay is one of the hardest tournaments to win. ‘Perceptive’
Tinpot player
How?