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Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:34 am
by HalloweenJack
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:26 am
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:11 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:48 pm
They throw away good positions and just plain give up when behind
That’s bollocks about giving up. The mentality has been instilled that they can chase anything down and that they are always in games.
Now I’m not denying some of the shot selections are very gung ho but I don’t believe they give up.
No they clearly give up when the game is tough
What about the final test gave you the impression they were up for it?
See my answer above.
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:37 am
by Randall
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:34 am
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:26 am
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:11 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:48 pm
They throw away good positions and just plain give up when behind
That’s bollocks about giving up. The mentality has been instilled that they can chase anything down and that they are always in games.
Now I’m not denying some of the shot selections are very gung ho but I don’t believe they give up.
No they clearly give up when the game is tough
What about the final test gave you the impression they were up for it?
See my answer above.
None so blind as those who don't want to see
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:38 am
by Captain Hobo
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:34 am
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:26 am
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:11 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:48 pm
They throw away good positions and just plain give up when behind
That’s bollocks about giving up. The mentality has been instilled that they can chase anything down and that they are always in games.
Now I’m not denying some of the shot selections are very gung ho but I don’t believe they give up.
No they clearly give up when the game is tough
What about the final test gave you the impression they were up for it?
Bazball, hnnnnnngggggg
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:43 am
by Randall
Captain Hobo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:38 am
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:34 am
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:26 am
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:11 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:48 pm
They throw away good positions and just plain give up when behind
That’s bollocks about giving up. The mentality has been instilled that they can chase anything down and that they are always in games.
Now I’m not denying some of the shot selections are very gung ho but I don’t believe they give up.
No they clearly give up when the game is tough
What about the final test gave you the impression they were up for it?
Bazball, hnnnnnngggggg
Even mcullum admitted it had been exposed yesterday didn't he?
You can be positive in a game without being suicidal, unless you just want to go home.
If you know the occasional quick 40 odd is deemed enough why make the effort I guess
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:52 am
by Captain Hobo
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:43 am
Captain Hobo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:38 am
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:34 am
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:26 am
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:11 pm
That’s bollocks about giving up. The mentality has been instilled that they can chase anything down and that they are always in games.
Now I’m not denying some of the shot selections are very gung ho but I don’t believe they give up.
No they clearly give up when the game is tough
What about the final test gave you the impression they were up for it?
Bazball, hnnnnnngggggg
Even mcullum admitted it had been exposed yesterday didn't he?
You can be positive in a game without being suicidal, unless you just want to go home.
If you know the occasional quick 40 odd is deemed enough why make the effort I guess
Exactly. The top teams have always been attacking but then known when to defend.
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:17 am
by Randall
45% of fuckitts runs were in 1 innings of 10
62% of popes runs were in 1 innings of 10
Bairstow, Stokes and foakes Barely averaged 20 between them
Crawley got lucky on occasion this tour before tossing it away
Root applied himself only after the brain fart
None of this will win you series.
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:47 am
by Captain Hobo
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:17 am
45% of fuckitts runs were in 1 innings of 10
62% of popes runs were in 1 innings of 10
Bairstow, Stokes and foakes Barely averaged 20 between them
Crawley got lucky on occasion this tour before tossing it away
Root applied himself only after the brain fart
None of this will win you series.
All will be well once you've smashed up Sri Lanka and the Windies.
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:35 am
by Randall
Captain Hobo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:47 am
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:17 am
45% of fuckitts runs were in 1 innings of 10
62% of popes runs were in 1 innings of 10
Bairstow, Stokes and foakes Barely averaged 20 between them
Crawley got lucky on occasion this tour before tossing it away
Root applied himself only after the brain fart
None of this will win you series.
All will be glossed over once you've smashed up Sri Lanka and the Windies.
Yes
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:39 pm
by HalloweenJack
Captain Hobo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:47 am
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:17 am
45% of fuckitts runs were in 1 innings of 10
62% of popes runs were in 1 innings of 10
Bairstow, Stokes and foakes Barely averaged 20 between them
Crawley got lucky on occasion this tour before tossing it away
Root applied himself only after the brain fart
None of this will win you series.
All will be well once you've smashed up Sri Lanka and the Windies.
Exactly. I will be at one of the games getting pissed watching it.
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:42 pm
by HalloweenJack
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:43 am
Captain Hobo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:38 am
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:34 am
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:26 am
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:11 pm
That’s bollocks about giving up. The mentality has been instilled that they can chase anything down and that they are always in games.
Now I’m not denying some of the shot selections are very gung ho but I don’t believe they give up.
No they clearly give up when the game is tough
What about the final test gave you the impression they were up for it?
Bazball, hnnnnnngggggg
Even mcullum admitted it had been exposed yesterday didn't he?
You can be positive in a game without being suicidal, unless you just want to go home.
If you know the occasional quick 40 odd is deemed enough why make the effort I guess
My point which you have seemed to miss is that I don’t believe for one minute the players have given up. You are the only person I’ve seen that has put that.
What are you basically saying is that Duckett thought ‘Fuck this I don’t want to try to get a big score, I know I’ll fuck my wicket away as soon as possible so I can get back to the changing room and have a bit of a kip’
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:20 pm
by Randall
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:42 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:43 am
Captain Hobo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:38 am
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:34 am
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:26 am
No they clearly give up when the game is tough
What about the final test gave you the impression they were up for it?
Bazball, hnnnnnngggggg
Even mcullum admitted it had been exposed yesterday didn't he?
You can be positive in a game without being suicidal, unless you just want to go home.
If you know the occasional quick 40 odd is deemed enough why make the effort I guess
My point which you have seemed to miss is that I don’t believe for one minute the players have given up. You are the only person I’ve seen that has put that.
What are you basically saying is that Duckett thought ‘Fuck this I don’t want to try to get a big score, I know I’ll fuck my wicket away as soon as possible so I can get back to the changing room and have a bit of a kip’
All evidence points towards that
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:22 pm
by HalloweenJack
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:20 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:42 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:43 am
Even mcullum admitted it had been exposed yesterday didn't he?
You can be positive in a game without being suicidal, unless you just want to go home.
If you know the occasional quick 40 odd is deemed enough why make the effort I guess
My point which you have seemed to miss is that I don’t believe for one minute the players have given up. You are the only person I’ve seen that has put that.
What are you basically saying is that Duckett thought ‘Fuck this I don’t want to try to get a big score, I know I’ll fuck my wicket away as soon as possible so I can get back to the changing room and have a bit of a kip’
All evidence points towards that
‘Subjective’
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:08 pm
by sennafan24
A spirited bazball-esque approach by HJ on this page.
But Randall and Hobo's more traditional an measured approach is still clearly more effective.
Thus yet another test goes to the Australia and Leicester alliance.
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:28 pm
by Randall
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:22 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:20 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:42 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:43 am
Even mcullum admitted it had been exposed yesterday didn't he?
You can be positive in a game without being suicidal, unless you just want to go home.
If you know the occasional quick 40 odd is deemed enough why make the effort I guess
My point which you have seemed to miss is that I don’t believe for one minute the players have given up. You are the only person I’ve seen that has put that.
What are you basically saying is that Duckett thought ‘Fuck this I don’t want to try to get a big score, I know I’ll fuck my wicket away as soon as possible so I can get back to the changing room and have a bit of a kip’
All evidence points towards that
‘Subjective’
It's either that or he knows he is within a culture where it doesn't matter how shit his performance Is he will get picked anyway.
Facing a 259 defecit running down the pitch to be bowled in the 1st over is unacceptable
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:26 pm
by HalloweenJack
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:28 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:22 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:20 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:42 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:43 am
Even mcullum admitted it had been exposed yesterday didn't he?
You can be positive in a game without being suicidal, unless you just want to go home.
If you know the occasional quick 40 odd is deemed enough why make the effort I guess
My point which you have seemed to miss is that I don’t believe for one minute the players have given up. You are the only person I’ve seen that has put that.
What are you basically saying is that Duckett thought ‘Fuck this I don’t want to try to get a big score, I know I’ll fuck my wicket away as soon as possible so I can get back to the changing room and have a bit of a kip’
All evidence points towards that
‘Subjective’
It's either that or he knows he is within a culture where it doesn't matter how shit his performance Is he will get picked anyway.
Facing a 259 defecit running down the pitch to be bowled in the 1st over is unacceptable
I wouldn’t dispute the manner of his dismissal.
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:45 pm
by sennafan24
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:28 pm
It's either that or he knows he is within a culture where it doesn't matter how shit his performance Is he will get picked anyway.
Facing a 259 defecit running down the pitch to be bowled in the 1st over is unacceptable
+1
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:48 pm
by Randall
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:26 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:28 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:22 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:20 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:42 pm
My point which you have seemed to miss is that I don’t believe for one minute the players have given up. You are the only person I’ve seen that has put that.
What are you basically saying is that Duckett thought ‘Fuck this I don’t want to try to get a big score, I know I’ll fuck my wicket away as soon as possible so I can get back to the changing room and have a bit of a kip’
All evidence points towards that
‘Subjective’
It's either that or he knows he is within a culture where it doesn't matter how shit his performance Is he will get picked anyway.
Facing a 259 defecit running down the pitch to be bowled in the 1st over is unacceptable
I wouldn’t dispute the manner of his dismissal.
However you dice it, its a piss poor approach and attitude
It was the 1st over ffs
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:51 pm
by Rogg
I enjoy that Randall calls Duckett 'Fuckitt'. It beautifully summarises the culture of the current England setup. It's vital that questions continue to be asked.
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:54 pm
by Randall
Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:51 pm
I enjoy that Randall calls Duckett 'Fuckitt'. It beautifully summarises the culture of the current England setup. It's vital that questions continue to be asked.
It does doesn't it
Re: cricket thread
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:55 pm
by sennafan24
Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:51 pm
I enjoy that Randall calls Duckett 'Fuckitt'. It beautifully summarises the culture of the current England setup. It's vital that questions continue to be asked.
+1
Randall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:48 pm
However you dice it, its a piss poor approach and attitude
It was the 1st over ffs
+1