The Darts Forum

2014

BDO Representatives

Stephen Bunting (playing PDC)
Christian Kist (playing PDC)
Alan Norris
Robbie Green
Jan Dekker
Scott Waites
Tony O'Shea
Wesley Harms
Richie George


Kim Huybrechts 5-2 Jan Dekker
Jan Dekker 5-2 Darren Webster
Michael van Gerwen 5-0 Jan Dekker
Alan Norris 5-2 Ronny Huybrechts
Terry Jenkins 5-2 Scott Waites
Alan Norris 5-1 Terry Jenkins
Ronny Huybrechts 5-4 Scott Waites
Raymond van Barneveld 5-3 Robbie Green
Robbie Green 5-2 Robert Thornton
Robbie Green 5-4 Vincent van der Voort
Phil Taylor 5-0 Richie George
Christian Kist 5-2 Andy Hamilton
Phil Taylor 5-1 Christian Kist
Andy Hamilton 5-2 Richie George
Mervyn King 5-4 Tony O'Shea
Tony O'Shea 5-3 Jamie Caven
James Wade 5-1 Tony O'Shea
Stephen Bunting 5-2 Gary Anderson
Wesley Harms 5-3 Dean Winstanley
Stephen Bunting 5-2 Dean Winstanley
Gary Anderson 5-0 Wesley Harms

Kim Huybrechts 10-5 Alan Norris
Dave Chisnall 10-3 Robbie Green
Michael Smith 10-5 Christian Kist
Stephen Bunting 10-8 James Wade

Mervyn King 16-9 Stephen Bunting


Group stage: PDC 11-10 BDO
Last 16: PDC 3-1 BDO
QF: PDC 1-0 BDO

Total: PDC 15-11 BDO

Complete.

2007: PDC 15-8 BDO ----- [2 of these BDO wins by then-active PDC players]
2008: PDC 18-14 BDO ----- [5 of these BDO wins by then-active PDC players]
2009: PDC 10-12 BDO ----- [4 of these BDO wins by then-active PDC players]
2010: PDC 9-16 BDO
2011: PDC 11-10 BDO ---- [1 of these BDO wins by a then-active PDC player]
2012: PDC 17-13 BDO ---- [5 of these BDO wins by then-active PDC players]
2013: PDC 10-9 BDO ---- [3 of these BDO wins by then-active PDC players]
2014: PDC 15-11 BDO ---- [4 of these BDO wins by then-active PDC players]
2015: PDC 18-7 BDO
2016: PDC 18-11 BDO
2017: PDC 17-9 BDO
2018: PDC 17-10 BDO
2019: PDC 21-6 BDO ----- [4 of these BDO wins by a then-active PDC player]


TOTAL: PDC 196-136 BDO

NOTE... 28 of those 'BDO' wins were by then-active PDC players, ie. tour card holders from 2011.

196-108 by the other measure then

If the reverse had happened, and the PDC had sent 5-6 of their best players to a BDO event, they would have easily won more than they lost.

The PDC was much better from 2007 onward.

Randall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:15 pm 196-108 by the other measure then

A calculation for another day, but it would be something like that.

Someone should have a go at the masters of darts, wdt and idl of the mid to late noughties?

Using the original calculation:


Across 2007-2014, the PDC are +12.

By 2019, they are +60.

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:17 pm If the reverse had happened, and the PDC had sent 5-6 of their best players to a BDO event, they would have easily won more than they lost.

The PDC was much better from 2007 onward.

This event was the cream of the BDO vs. the cream, milk and mould of the PDC.

So the head-to-head cup race was tilted massively to the BDO's advantage.

Rogg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:24 pm Using the original calculation:


Across 2007-2014, the PDC are +12.

By 2019, they are +60.

does this imply that Headshaker's 'world titles' are actually worth something?

Ross, Bob wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:35 pm

Rogg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:24 pm Using the original calculation:


Across 2007-2014, the PDC are +12.

By 2019, they are +60.

does this imply that Headshaker's 'world titles' are actually worth something?

No

Ross, Bob wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:35 pm

Rogg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:24 pm Using the original calculation:


Across 2007-2014, the PDC are +12.

By 2019, they are +60.

does this imply that Headshaker's 'world titles' are actually worth something?

The BDO's best players snacking on the likes of Pat Orreal, Colin McGarry, Stacy Bromberg, Tricia Wright and James Hubbard doesn't say a lot about the BDO. Or about anything else for that matter.

The Slam has never been a like-for-like cross-code tournament, so the all-time head-to-head record at face value is completely meaningless.

Which makes me feel great! Thanks Bob.

Randall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:38 pm

Ross, Bob wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:35 pm

Rogg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:24 pm Using the original calculation:


Across 2007-2014, the PDC are +12.

By 2019, they are +60.

does this imply that Headshaker's 'world titles' are actually worth something?

No

that's a relief.

Rogg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:19 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:15 pm 196-108 by the other measure then

A calculation for another day, but it would be something like that.

This calculation will be done.

Also, fuck know who or what Warren and Suzuki will be representing this year. Is it the honey monster?

Still haven't done that recalculation. Oh well. Bump for 2020.

Rogg wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:48 am Still haven't done that recalculation. Oh well. Bump for 2020.

No need.

Only Waites beating Wade and Hankey beating Taylor in 2010 matter.

I'll do up 2020 all fancy but, well, it was 6-0 wasn't it?

2016 looked BDO’s strongest line up

Rogg wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:11 am I'll do up 2020 all fancy but, well, it was 6-0 wasn't it?

It was

Wolflanternbumbag wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:18 am 2016 looked BDO’s strongest line up

Of the modern era, for sure.

Of the eight, 5 were future tour card holders: Duzza, Noppy, Hughes, Hinges and JEFF.

Three of them are in the Top 32 currently.

Rogg wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:11 am I'll do up 2020 all fancy but, well, it was 6-0 wasn't it?

Any luck? Let's do it now.