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Jenk's ton plus averages are still the exception rather than the norm Gaz.

This also goes back to a point Dave, ToS and Bob made that there's only a couple of chances to impress on the big stage. Who knows if the BDO lads had the chance of a 14 week televised event how high they could actually go?

They can play mate as GSoD has proven.

actually think if jenks put his nut fully into darts he'd be pretty awesome.

M H wrote:Jenk's ton plus averages are still the exception rather than the norm Gaz.

its a whole damn lot more regular than adams for sure.When has adams EVER achieved a 100plus over a long distance....like those by jenks.
Anytime i have ever seen a player hit a surge against adams , spineless cannot keep up but only seems to get back as soon as the other players purple patch starts to cease..Look at how nixon upped his game against him and he almost fell apart...make no mistake he fell over that line, with only the pressure being turned on nixon towards the end

Doc's right with his opinion on Jenks, he could be awesome if he wasn't as financially comfortable as he is.

However the point is as has been stated. Jenks has far more opportunities to put in a ton plus average, Adams simply doesn't.

Where we do agree is my belief that Adams wouldn't have won a major in a unified field but when comparing you have to take into account the opportunities available to both.

in in 17 years of lakesides since the split which spineless has competed how many 100 plus averages has he got ???

i dont think any of the bdo world champs since the split would have won in a unified field but that is due almost entirely to one man.

Not the point Gaz as I've already said I don't believe he'd have won a major in a unified field. Playing twice a year in a tV event is far different to playing fourteen weeks on the bounce plus the other majors.

See the point I'm making mate?

Justin Credible wrote: Anytime i have ever seen a player hit a surge against adams , spineless cannot keep up but only seems to get back as soon as the other players purple patch starts to cease..

Beacause he is consistant, which was the original topic iirc.

M H wrote:Not the point Gaz as I've already said I don't believe he'd have won a major in a unified field. Playing twice a year in a tV event is far different to playing fourteen weeks on the bounce plus the other majors.

See the point I'm making mate?

I see your point...but in 17 years thats 34 majors ..he has very very few 100plus averages.

Randall...only barneyand part won titles in the bdo and pdc since the split...priestley and taylor got theirs prior

Don't think you should put so much emphasis on the averages, Gaz. We've all seen players drop or rise to the level of their opponents. I wonder if it makes players relax a bit if the opponent isn't playing well.

Justin Credible wrote:

M H wrote:Not the point Gaz as I've already said I don't believe he'd have won a major in a unified field. Playing twice a year in a tV event is far different to playing fourteen weeks on the bounce plus the other majors.

See the point I'm making mate?

I see your point...but in 17 years thats 34 majors ..he has very very few 100plus averages.

Randall...only barneyand part won titles in the bdo and pdc since the split...priestley and taylor got theirs prior

barney would not have troubled taylor the years he won the lakeside. the h2h between the two in that period tells you all you need to know.

as for hankey, walton etc, no chance imo.

randall wrote:i dont think any of the bdo world champs since the split would have won in a unified field but that is due almost entirely to one man.

Not sure mate. The early days in the PDC were pretty dire and Barney was more than impressive before he switched. I wouldn't forget Burnett and Fordham either

im not convinced about barney

Apr-2006 Munich Steel Darts Open Phil Taylor 7 5 Raymond van Barneveld Final
23-Mar-2006 Premier League Darts Phil Taylor 7 7 Raymond van Barneveld Group Stage
26-Nov-2005 World Dart Gala Phil Taylor 2 4 Raymond van Barneveld Group Stage
26-Nov-2005 World Dart Gala Phil Taylor 6 2 Raymond van Barneveld Final
25-Nov-2005 World Dart Gala Phil Taylor 5 4 Raymond van Barneveld Semi Final
24-Nov-2005 World Dart Gala Phil Taylor 6 4 Raymond van Barneveld Final
12-Nov-2005 PDPA Players Championship Holland Phil Taylor 3 1 Raymond van Barneveld Semi Final
13-Feb-2005 Masters of Darts Phil Taylor 4 0 Raymond van Barneveld Group Stage
13-Feb-2005 Masters of Darts Phil Taylor 5 2 Raymond van Barneveld Semi Final
04-Jun-2000 Swiss Open Raymond van Barneveld 2 0 Phil Taylor Semi Final
22-May-2000 North American Open Phil Taylor 4 0 Raymond van Barneveld Semi Final
07-Nov-1999 Match of the Century Phil Taylor 21 10 Raymond van Barneveld Final
22-Mar-1993 German Open Phil Taylor 3 2 Raymond van Barneveld Last 16
23-Sep-1990 Europe Cup Phil Taylor 4 2 Raymond van Barneveld Quarter Final

fordham wouldnt have coped on the stage as was witnessed in the showdown and taylor beat burnett in the 97 challenge of champions and also
29-Jul-2001 World Matchplay Phil Taylor 18 10 Richie Burnett Final
29-Jul-2000 World Matchplay Phil Taylor 17 9 Richie Burnett Semi Final

ill grant you they may have won the pdc title without taylor as then it would be a level playing field.

randall wrote:

Justin Credible wrote:

M H wrote:Not the point Gaz as I've already said I don't believe he'd have won a major in a unified field. Playing twice a year in a tV event is far different to playing fourteen weeks on the bounce plus the other majors.

See the point I'm making mate?

I see your point...but in 17 years thats 34 majors ..he has very very few 100plus averages.

Randall...only barneyand part won titles in the bdo and pdc since the split...priestley and taylor got theirs prior

barney would not have troubled taylor the years he won the lakeside. the h2h between the two in that period tells you all you need to know.

as for hankey, walton etc, no chance imo.

Steve beaton , jelle klassen and tony david won the title ffs..

Fordham was ill mate but the champions challenge is one match and not a progression through an event.

they were both very fine players but wouldnt have beaten taylor

6-Nov-2005 World Dart Gala Phil Taylor 4 1 Andy Fordham Group Stage
25-Nov-2005 World Dart Gala Phil Taylor 4 2 Andy Fordham Group Stage
13-Feb-2005 Masters of Darts Phil Taylor 7 1 Andy Fordham Final
13-Feb-2005 Masters of Darts Phil Taylor 4 2 Andy Fordham Group Stage
23-May-2001 North American Cup Phil Taylor 4 0 Andy Fordham Final

world championship distance match right there in 05.

Hankey would have beaten Taylor in 2000

More than possible looking at respective averages and Hanky did find a purple patch that week.