Current OoM

[PT13]

I wonder if Taylor not being around on tour is a reason for Lewis' loss of form?

Why would that be?

I thought they parted ways long before Taylor retired?

They did, in 2007, but they still had that competitive rivalry long after that.

[sennafan24]

I wonder if Taylor not being around on tour is a reason for Lewis' loss of form?

Why would that be?

I thought they parted ways long before Taylor retired?

They did, in 2007, but they still had that competitive rivalry long after that.

Aye, but surely Lewis would have been motivated by MVG's presence?

I think Lewis simply got lazy after winning his world titles and has steadily declined since then.

[PT13]

I wonder if Taylor not being around on tour is a reason for Lewis' loss of form?

Why would that be?

I thought they parted ways long before Taylor retired?

They did, in 2007, but they still had that competitive rivalry long after that.

Aye, but surely Lewis would have been motivated by MVG's presence?

I think Lewis simply got lazy after winning his world titles and has steadily declined since then.

Back in 2013, Lewis was something of a nemesis for van Gerwen. That was probably Lewis' most consistent year too, even though he lost the World Championship. Decline did start to kick in slowly from 2014. He recovered a little bit after the Munch shocker 3 years ago, which had previously taken him out of the top 16, but nothing like his old level.

[Potter's Lake]

Snackpot doesn't trust his natural talent these days, he's relying on his throwing mechanics, which it turns out aren't very good.

[thegentle]

Funny enough I brought this very match up tonight with my dad watching the final. Ever since Lewis put Price down as 'the difference between greatness and not so great", he has completely and utterly bombed.

Laughably also, this was a year before Price got to the UK Open final and Price wasn't even that good then. The 2017/18 incarnation of Price that got smashed week-in week out in the Premier League is still miles better than the Lewis of today. Now look at how far he's improved in the two years since. Correct me if I'm wrong but Lewis hasn't got a to a tv final even since.

I think deep down Adrian Lewis will be the most embarrassed out of everyone after tonight. Anderson may not like Price and Van Gerwen might be pissed about being number two, but they can hold their heads high. Lewis should be mortified.

You're correct about Lewis not getting to a TV final since. His only real standout on TV since was at the 2017 World Matchplay, shortly after having a back operation, when he got to the semi finals and won more legs off Phil Taylor (9) than anyone else in that tournament. He got to the semi finals of the Masters earlier that year, but van Gerwen beat him easily, and it's not a ranking event. Lewis hasn't won a World Cup since 2016, with Taylor, over van Gerwen and van Barneveld, just before the grudge match with Price. Van Gerwen hammered Lewis in the 2016 World Matchplay semi finals.

I wonder if Taylor not being around on tour is a reason for Lewis' loss of form? Even in 2017, Taylor was in semi retirement, not playing any floor events.

I mean his shit form started earlier than that, he was so poor over the two years from reaching the world final in 2016 to bombing out first round to Kevin Munch that he fell outside the top 16

[Dave90]

I reckon Ross Smith will be a bit of a dark horse for a top 32 run if we get a full-ish calendar. Provisionally in the matchplay spots and seems to be a more consistent player recently, and capable of producing the bigger averages more consistently.

[Malanax]

I reckon Ross Smith will be a bit of a dark horse for a top 32 run if we get a full-ish calendar. Provisionally in the matchplay spots and seems to be a more consistent player recently, and capable of producing the bigger averages more consistently.

i was thinking last night who's likely to break into the 32 this year and he would be one of my picks also. could see dolan getting back in also. if huybrechts can maintain his worlds form he'd have a shot at getting back in also.

[thegentle]

I reckon Ross Smith will be a bit of a dark horse for a top 32 run if we get a full-ish calendar. Provisionally in the matchplay spots and seems to be a more consistent player recently, and capable of producing the bigger averages more consistently.

i was thinking last night who's likely to break into the 32 this year and he would be one of my picks also. could see dolan getting back in also. if huybrechts can maintain his worlds form he'd have a shot at getting back in also.

Willie O'Connor too, been very solid these last two years, but I don't think he's defending anything massive this year (other than £10k for a ProTour title). He's currently on course for the Matchplay which is something he's never qualified for hence there's plenty of room to rise up the rankings

[thegentle]

I hadn't realised Smith had fallen outside the top 8, started off the Worlds as #4, was tentatively #7 a few days ago

[Randall]

excellent news
was defending runner up

[Cross Boi]

I think Darius Labanauskas might break in, although defending the 2020 quarter final could prove tricky.

[Dave90]

I reckon Ross Smith will be a bit of a dark horse for a top 32 run if we get a full-ish calendar. Provisionally in the matchplay spots and seems to be a more consistent player recently, and capable of producing the bigger averages more consistently.

i was thinking last night who's likely to break into the 32 this year and he would be one of my picks also. could see dolan getting back in also. if huybrechts can maintain his worlds form he'd have a shot at getting back in also.

Willie O'Connor too, been very solid these last two years, but I don't think he's defending anything massive this year (other than £10k for a ProTour title). He's currently on course for the Matchplay which is something he's never qualified for hence there's plenty of room to rise up the rankings

Very true, top 32 could look a lot different with Searle, Heta, Dirk and a couple of others in situ

[Jimmi]

I reckon Ross Smith will be a bit of a dark horse for a top 32 run if we get a full-ish calendar. Provisionally in the matchplay spots and seems to be a more consistent player recently, and capable of producing the bigger averages more consistently.

i was thinking last night who's likely to break into the 32 this year and he would be one of my picks also. could see dolan getting back in also. if huybrechts can maintain his worlds form he'd have a shot at getting back in also.

Willie O'Connor too, been very solid these last two years, but I don't think he's defending anything massive this year (other than £10k for a ProTour title). He's currently on course for the Matchplay which is something he's never qualified for hence there's plenty of room to rise up the rankings

O'Connor's doubling worries me.
But I hope he makes it somehow.

[Dfc180]

I reckon Ross Smith will be a bit of a dark horse for a top 32 run if we get a full-ish calendar. Provisionally in the matchplay spots and seems to be a more consistent player recently, and capable of producing the bigger averages more consistently.

i was thinking last night who's likely to break into the 32 this year and he would be one of my picks also. could see dolan getting back in also. if huybrechts can maintain his worlds form he'd have a shot at getting back in also.

Willie O'Connor too, been very solid these last two years, but I don't think he's defending anything massive this year (other than £10k for a ProTour title). He's currently on course for the Matchplay which is something he's never qualified for hence there's plenty of room to rise up the rankings

O'Connor's doubling worries me.
But I hope he makes it somehow.

Smith and o connor are very similar, no middle ground they are either brilliant or terrible.

[Jimmi]

I reckon Ross Smith will be a bit of a dark horse for a top 32 run if we get a full-ish calendar. Provisionally in the matchplay spots and seems to be a more consistent player recently, and capable of producing the bigger averages more consistently.

i was thinking last night who's likely to break into the 32 this year and he would be one of my picks also. could see dolan getting back in also. if huybrechts can maintain his worlds form he'd have a shot at getting back in also.

Willie O'Connor too, been very solid these last two years, but I don't think he's defending anything massive this year (other than £10k for a ProTour title). He's currently on course for the Matchplay which is something he's never qualified for hence there's plenty of room to rise up the rankings

O'Connor's doubling worries me.
But I hope he makes it somehow.

Smith and o connor are very similar, no middle ground they are either brilliant or terrible.

Agreed.
Got a soft spot for Big Willie and all.
Smith not so much.

[Randall]

i was thinking last night who's likely to break into the 32 this year and he would be one of my picks also. could see dolan getting back in also. if huybrechts can maintain his worlds form he'd have a shot at getting back in also.

Willie O'Connor too, been very solid these last two years, but I don't think he's defending anything massive this year (other than £10k for a ProTour title). He's currently on course for the Matchplay which is something he's never qualified for hence there's plenty of room to rise up the rankings

O'Connor's doubling worries me.
But I hope he makes it somehow.

Smith and o connor are very similar, no middle ground they are either brilliant or terrible.

Agreed.
Got a soft spot for Big Willie

[Jimmi]

Willie O'Connor too, been very solid these last two years, but I don't think he's defending anything massive this year (other than £10k for a ProTour title). He's currently on course for the Matchplay which is something he's never qualified for hence there's plenty of room to rise up the rankings

O'Connor's doubling worries me.
But I hope he makes it somehow.

Smith and o connor are very similar, no middle ground they are either brilliant or terrible.

Agreed.
Got a soft spot for Big Willie

Knew it wouldn't take long.

[Randall]

O'Connor's doubling worries me.
But I hope he makes it somehow.

Smith and o connor are very similar, no middle ground they are either brilliant or terrible.

Agreed.
Got a soft spot for Big Willie

Knew it wouldn't take long.

I'm not one to miss a chance to post!

[tungsten tossers]

i was thinking last night who's likely to break into the 32 this year and he would be one of my picks also. could see dolan getting back in also. if huybrechts can maintain his worlds form he'd have a shot at getting back in also.

Willie O'Connor too, been very solid these last two years, but I don't think he's defending anything massive this year (other than £10k for a ProTour title). He's currently on course for the Matchplay which is something he's never qualified for hence there's plenty of room to rise up the rankings

O'Connor's doubling worries me.
But I hope he makes it somehow.

Smith and o connor are very similar, no middle ground they are either brilliant or terrible.

Agreed.
Got a soft spot for all Willie and all.
Muff not so much.

fair enough mate

[Malanax]

Definitely expect searle to be top 32 this year