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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 32

Post by tungsten tossers » Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:06 am

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shenmue wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 12:01 am Damn shame if true mate
It was back in that dark time of forum history before Oche discovered the Wikipedia Recent deaths page.

RIP Dame Olivia (or Olivian as some called her)
Many racehorses would've gone unmentioned back then too..
A terrible shame, given all the money they had made for the bookies

Oh... and RIP Olivia

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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 32

Post by Ross, Bob » Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:51 am

tungsten tossers wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:06 am
Captain Hobo wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:44 am
shenmue wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 12:01 am Damn shame if true mate
It was back in that dark time of forum history before Oche discovered the Wikipedia Recent deaths page.

RIP Dame Olivia (or Olivian as some called her)
Many racehorses would've gone unmentioned back then too..
A terrible shame, given all the money they had made for the bookies

Oh... and RIM Olivia
FFS mate. You're taking this fan thing a bit too far.
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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 32

Post by tungsten tossers » Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:02 am

Ross, Bob wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:51 am
tungsten tossers wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:06 am
Captain Hobo wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:44 am
shenmue wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 12:01 am Damn shame if true mate
It was back in that dark time of forum history before Oche discovered the Wikipedia Recent deaths page.

RIP Dame Olivia (or Olivian as some called her)
Many racehorses would've gone unmentioned back then too..
A terrible shame, given all the money they had made for the bookies

Oh... and RIM Olivia
FFS mate. You're taking this fan thing a bit too far.
:D

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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 32

Post by sennafan24 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:46 pm

I was looking at Mervyn King's wiki earlier. I was surprised to see how his BDO career compared with Adams's. It was clearly better up until Adams won Lakeside in 2007 (Merv's last tounament with the BDO)

- King debuted at Lakeside in 1997. He was seeded alongside Adams by early 1998 and was ranked ahead of him by 1999. King consistently remained ahead of Adams in the rankings between 1999 and 2006 other than a brief period around 2001.

- King had already won 3 BDO majors before Adams won his first at Lakeside 07 (04 Masters, 05 IDL, 05 Finders). Merv also won those events while Barney was still in the BDO and the organisation was at its strongest post split. So King wasn't just a floor warrior.

- King had stints as BDO number 1, entering Lakeside 2001 and 2006 as the number 1 seed. Adams did enter the 96 and 07 version as number 1 seed in fairness

- King made two Lakeside finals (02 and 04). Adams again only matched that by making the final of Lakeside 07. (05 and 07)

All in all, I think King was a bit better in the BDO than is remembered. I think there is a decent chance he would have won Lakeside eventually had he stayed in the BDO.
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Post by The Thorn » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:47 pm

Lol didn't read
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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 32

Post by sennafan24 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:48 pm

The Thorn wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:47 pm Lol didn't read
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Post by shenmue » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:00 pm

Praying for Merv

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Post by sennafan24 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:02 pm

shenmue wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:00 pm Praying for Merv
I have a soft spot for him also.
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Post by shenmue » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:05 pm

He's a legendary character and as you say he's had a good career.

I wish him good health, I worry about his back the most.

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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 32

Post by ChrisW » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:07 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:46 pm I was looking at Mervyn King's wiki earlier. I was surprised to see how his BDO career compared with Adams's. It was clearly better up until Adams won Lakeside in 2007 (Merv's last tounament with the BDO)

- King debuted at Lakeside in 1997. He was seeded alongside Adams by early 1998 and was ranked ahead of him by 1999. King consistently remained ahead of Adams in the rankings between 1999 and 2006 other than a brief period around 2001.

- King had already won 3 BDO majors before Adams won his first at Lakeside 07 (04 Masters, 05 IDL, 05 Finders). Merv also won those events while Barney was still in the BDO and the organisation was at its strongest post split. So King wasn't just a floor warrior.

- King had stints as BDO number 1, entering Lakeside 2001 and 2006 as the number 1 seed. Adams did enter the 96 and 07 version as number 1 seed in fairness

- King made two Lakeside finals (02 and 04). Adams again only matched that by making the final of Lakeside 07. (05 and 07)

All in all, I think King was a bit better in the BDO than is remembered. I think there is a decent chance he would have won Lakeside eventually had he stayed in the BDO.
Not convinced. Did he win anything in the PDC?

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Post by shenmue » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:11 pm

He's definitely a bdo legend and there is an argument he is a pdc legend for his two chokes in major finals vs wadey and van goblin, they were legendary chokes and orgasmicly beautiful viewing.

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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 32

Post by sennafan24 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:14 pm

ChrisW wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:07 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:46 pm I was looking at Mervyn King's wiki earlier. I was surprised to see how his BDO career compared with Adams's. It was clearly better up until Adams won Lakeside in 2007 (Merv's last tounament with the BDO)

- King debuted at Lakeside in 1997. He was seeded alongside Adams by early 1998 and was ranked ahead of him by 1999. King consistently remained ahead of Adams in the rankings between 1999 and 2006 other than a brief period around 2001.

- King had already won 3 BDO majors before Adams won his first at Lakeside 07 (04 Masters, 05 IDL, 05 Finders). Merv also won those events while Barney was still in the BDO and the organisation was at its strongest post split. So King wasn't just a floor warrior.

- King had stints as BDO number 1, entering Lakeside 2001 and 2006 as the number 1 seed. Adams did enter the 96 and 07 version as number 1 seed in fairness

- King made two Lakeside finals (02 and 04). Adams again only matched that by making the final of Lakeside 07. (05 and 07)

All in all, I think King was a bit better in the BDO than is remembered. I think there is a decent chance he would have won Lakeside eventually had he stayed in the BDO.
Not convinced. Did he win anything in the PDC?
Not on TV.

However, he switched at a time when Barney and Wade were at their peaks and when Taylor was about to find the best form we had ever seen.

If he could make two Lakeside finals and win 3 majors in the early-mid 2000s BDO, I don't think it is wild to claim he could possibly go one better at Lakeside in the late 00s and especially the early 2010s.
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Post by ChrisW » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:17 pm

Yes lots of ifs.
He could have also won one of the many PDC majors when Taylor was knocked out.

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Post by Randall » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:28 pm

ChrisW wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:17 pm Yes lots of ifs.
He could have also won one of the many PDC majors when Taylor was knocked out.
Seem to recall he beat Taylor in a semi somewhere
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Post by sennafan24 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:28 pm

ChrisW wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:17 pm Yes lots of ifs.
He could have also won one of the many PDC majors when Taylor was knocked out.
The Lakeside fields were far more wide open in the late 2000s and early 2010s than PDC fields.

For example, Webster and Kist both won Lakeside, but neither won PDC TV event after switching.

I'm not claiming King would have 100% won Lakey had he stayed, but he certainly would have had a chance.
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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 32

Post by sennafan24 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:29 pm

Randall wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:28 pm
ChrisW wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:17 pm Yes lots of ifs.
He could have also won one of the many PDC majors when Taylor was knocked out.
Seem to recall he beat Taylor in a semi somewhere
PL 09 finals night.

One of the few TV defeats Taylor suffered around that period.
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Post by ChrisW » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:30 pm

Randall wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:28 pm
ChrisW wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:17 pm Yes lots of ifs.
He could have also won one of the many PDC majors when Taylor was knocked out.
Seem to recall he beat Taylor in a semi somewhere
Premier League finals maybe?

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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 32

Post by Randall » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:30 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:29 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:28 pm
ChrisW wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:17 pm Yes lots of ifs.
He could have also won one of the many PDC majors when Taylor was knocked out.
Seem to recall he beat Taylor in a semi somewhere
PL 09 finals night.

One of the few TV defeats Taylor suffered around that period.
I was thinking players champs
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Post by ChrisW » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:32 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:28 pm
ChrisW wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:17 pm Yes lots of ifs.
He could have also won one of the many PDC majors when Taylor was knocked out.
The Lakeside fields were far more wide open in the late 2000s and early 2010s than PDC fields.

For example, Webster and Kist both won Lakeside, but neither won PDC TV event after switching.

I'm not claiming King would have 100% won Lakey had he stayed, but he certainly would have had a chance.
He would definitely have had a chance.

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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 32

Post by sennafan24 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:34 pm

Randall wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:30 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:29 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:28 pm
ChrisW wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:17 pm Yes lots of ifs.
He could have also won one of the many PDC majors when Taylor was knocked out.
Seem to recall he beat Taylor in a semi somewhere
PL 09 finals night.

One of the few TV defeats Taylor suffered around that period.
I was thinking players champs
2011 PC. The one Painter won.

I had to look that up :)
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