Tour card race 2020

[DeepFriedRat]

Needless to say, a ginormous win for Edgar, whose tour card is now a good 90% safe I'd say. Kuivenhoven could have done without it, obviously he's far from safe, if Hunt and Kleermaker win their first round games (which they'd probably both be favourites for given they'll be up against a non-ProTour qualifier), Maik would need to win his first round game or else he's relying on snookers

I fancy Kuivenhoven to blow it. He's been chucking turds non-stop since the Euros and there are a couple of banana skins more than capable of beating him

I reckon McGeeney is toast. Wilson is in dire straits but has a glimmer of hope via A. at least two qualifier withdrawals or B. Kando and Reyes packing it in.

[thegentle]

Needless to say, a ginormous win for Edgar, whose tour card is now a good 90% safe I'd say. Kuivenhoven could have done without it, obviously he's far from safe, if Hunt and Kleermaker win their first round games (which they'd probably both be favourites for given they'll be up against a non-ProTour qualifier), Maik would need to win his first round game or else he's relying on snookers

I fancy Kuivenhoven to blow it. He's been chucking turds non-stop since the Euros and there are a couple of banana skins more than capable of beating him

I reckon McGeeney is toast. Wilson is in dire straits but has a glimmer of hope via A. at least two qualifier withdrawals or B. Kando and Reyes packing it in.

All depends on the draw, there are as always some really good players in the international/invitational field, but unlike in the last few years, there are a considerable number of players there who would be considered real minnows.

McGeeney has a bit of breathing space in the sense that even if Kuivenhoven and Kleermaker win their opening round games, Hunt and everyone below him would need to win at least two games to overtake him, so he's probably odds on to keep his tour card (assuming that they will be giving the tour card to 65th)

[DeepFriedRat]

Needless to say, a ginormous win for Edgar, whose tour card is now a good 90% safe I'd say. Kuivenhoven could have done without it, obviously he's far from safe, if Hunt and Kleermaker win their first round games (which they'd probably both be favourites for given they'll be up against a non-ProTour qualifier), Maik would need to win his first round game or else he's relying on snookers

I fancy Kuivenhoven to blow it. He's been chucking turds non-stop since the Euros and there are a couple of banana skins more than capable of beating him

I reckon McGeeney is toast. Wilson is in dire straits but has a glimmer of hope via A. at least two qualifier withdrawals or B. Kando and Reyes packing it in.

All depends on the draw, there are as always some really good players in the international/invitational field, but unlike in the last few years, there are a considerable number of players there who would be considered real minnows.

McGeeney has a bit of breathing space in the sense that even if Kuivenhoven and Kleermaker win their opening round games, Hunt and everyone below him would need to win at least two games to overtake him, so he's probably odds on to keep his tour card (assuming that they will be giving the tour card to 65th)

100% agree about the international qualifiers. On one hand, the 'big five' to avoid imo are Sedlacek, Keane Barry, Boris Krcmar, Nico Kurz and David Evans, with Ilagan, Lim, Meikle, Ashton, Baggish and the other PDPA guys being capable banana skins.

On the other hand, the rest are either unheard of or complete statistical garbage.

[tungsten tossers]

Needless to say, a ginormous win for Edgar, whose tour card is now a good 90% safe I'd say. Kuivenhoven could have done without it, obviously he's far from safe, if Hunt and Kleermaker win their first round games (which they'd probably both be favourites for given they'll be up against a non-ProTour qualifier), Maik would need to win his first round game or else he's relying on snookers

It would be great if all 3 won their 1st round games, then we would lose Scabby and Biscuit

[Safc]

Needless to say, a ginormous win for Edgar, whose tour card is now a good 90% safe I'd say. Kuivenhoven could have done without it, obviously he's far from safe, if Hunt and Kleermaker win their first round games (which they'd probably both be favourites for given they'll be up against a non-ProTour qualifier), Maik would need to win his first round game or else he's relying on snookers

It would be great if all 3 won their 1st round games, then we would lose Scabby and Biscuit

[thegentle]

Needless to say, a ginormous win for Edgar, whose tour card is now a good 90% safe I'd say. Kuivenhoven could have done without it, obviously he's far from safe, if Hunt and Kleermaker win their first round games (which they'd probably both be favourites for given they'll be up against a non-ProTour qualifier), Maik would need to win his first round game or else he's relying on snookers

It would be great if all 3 won their 1st round games, then we would lose Scabby and Biscuit

Everyone from Hunt down needs two wins at least to jump McGeeney tbf

[tungsten tossers]

Needless to say, a ginormous win for Edgar, whose tour card is now a good 90% safe I'd say. Kuivenhoven could have done without it, obviously he's far from safe, if Hunt and Kleermaker win their first round games (which they'd probably both be favourites for given they'll be up against a non-ProTour qualifier), Maik would need to win his first round game or else he's relying on snookers

It would be great if all 3 won their 1st round games, then we would lose Scabby and Biscuit

Everyone from Hunt down needs two wins at least to jump McGeeney tbf

Hunt is on £34k so 1 win would put in on £41.5.. Maik is on £41

[thegentle]

Needless to say, a ginormous win for Edgar, whose tour card is now a good 90% safe I'd say. Kuivenhoven could have done without it, obviously he's far from safe, if Hunt and Kleermaker win their first round games (which they'd probably both be favourites for given they'll be up against a non-ProTour qualifier), Maik would need to win his first round game or else he's relying on snookers

I fancy Kuivenhoven to blow it. He's been chucking turds non-stop since the Euros and there are a couple of banana skins more than capable of beating him

I reckon McGeeney is toast. Wilson is in dire straits but has a glimmer of hope via A. at least two qualifier withdrawals or B. Kando and Reyes packing it in.

All depends on the draw, there are as always some really good players in the international/invitational field, but unlike in the last few years, there are a considerable number of players there who would be considered real minnows.

McGeeney has a bit of breathing space in the sense that even if Kuivenhoven and Kleermaker win their opening round games, Hunt and everyone below him would need to win at least two games to overtake him, so he's probably odds on to keep his tour card (assuming that they will be giving the tour card to 65th)

100% agree about the international qualifiers. On one hand, the 'big five' to avoid imo are Sedlacek, Keane Barry, Boris Krcmar, Nico Kurz and David Evans, with Ilagan, Lim, Meikle, Ashton, Baggish and the other PDPA guys being capable banana skins.

On the other hand, the rest are either unheard of or complete statistical garbage.

The likes of Kurz, Barry, Baggish, Campbell, Krcmar, Sedlacek and Zonneveld are the cream of the international crop, all quality players on form, they'd fancy their chances against anyone and could even be a threat in round 2 if they make it past round 1. The rest of the tour card holders plus the Oceanic lads, Lauby and Portela are solid enough, would probably give it a good go but would be underdogs whoever they play. Then you've got the likes of Lim, Ilagan, Carolissen, who have clearly got talent, but I've got no idea how they'll do given the lack of experience (in the case of Carolissen) or match practice this year, and then the others are varying degrees of minnow

[thegentle]

Needless to say, a ginormous win for Edgar, whose tour card is now a good 90% safe I'd say. Kuivenhoven could have done without it, obviously he's far from safe, if Hunt and Kleermaker win their first round games (which they'd probably both be favourites for given they'll be up against a non-ProTour qualifier), Maik would need to win his first round game or else he's relying on snookers

It would be great if all 3 won their 1st round games, then we would lose Scabby and Biscuit

Everyone from Hunt down needs two wins at least to jump McGeeney tbf

Hunt is on £34k so 1 win would put in on £41.5.. Maik is on £41

Wait...you're hating on Kuivenhoven who has suddenly developed a McGeeney-like arm?
McGeeney is safe unless three people overtake him, at least one of whom will need to win at least two games, Kuivenhoven needs to win a game, or else just one win from Kleermaker and Hunt will knock him out of the reckoning unless someone else hands in their tour card

[The Thorn]

McGeeney couldn't play any worse if he actually had leprosy

[Randall]

McGeeney couldn't play any worse if he actually had leprosy

Maybe he does?

[DeepFriedRat]

Needless to say, a ginormous win for Edgar, whose tour card is now a good 90% safe I'd say. Kuivenhoven could have done without it, obviously he's far from safe, if Hunt and Kleermaker win their first round games (which they'd probably both be favourites for given they'll be up against a non-ProTour qualifier), Maik would need to win his first round game or else he's relying on snookers

I fancy Kuivenhoven to blow it. He's been chucking turds non-stop since the Euros and there are a couple of banana skins more than capable of beating him

I reckon McGeeney is toast. Wilson is in dire straits but has a glimmer of hope via A. at least two qualifier withdrawals or B. Kando and Reyes packing it in.

All depends on the draw, there are as always some really good players in the international/invitational field, but unlike in the last few years, there are a considerable number of players there who would be considered real minnows.

McGeeney has a bit of breathing space in the sense that even if Kuivenhoven and Kleermaker win their opening round games, Hunt and everyone below him would need to win at least two games to overtake him, so he's probably odds on to keep his tour card (assuming that they will be giving the tour card to 65th)

100% agree about the international qualifiers. On one hand, the 'big five' to avoid imo are Sedlacek, Keane Barry, Boris Krcmar, Nico Kurz and David Evans, with Ilagan, Lim, Meikle, Ashton, Baggish and the other PDPA guys being capable banana skins.

On the other hand, the rest are either unheard of or complete statistical garbage.

The likes of Kurz, Barry, Baggish, Campbell, Krcmar, Sedlacek and Zonneveld are the cream of the international crop, all quality players on form, they'd fancy their chances against anyone and could even be a threat in round 2 if they make it past round 1. The rest of the tour card holders plus the Oceanic lads, Lauby and Portela are solid enough, would probably give it a good go but would be underdogs whoever they play. Then you've got the likes of Lim, Ilagan, Carolissen, who have clearly got talent, but I've got no idea how they'll do given the lack of experience (in the case of Carolissen) or match practice this year, and then the others are varying degrees of minnow

Forgot about Matt Campbell, he was very impressive vs Dimitri at the World Cup. I've never been convinced about Portela, he's played shit every time I've watched him except his Worlds debut vs Wright where he was decent enough. Puha seems like he should do better as he has potential but often flops on tv, he could benefit from the Challenge Tour.

I fancy Krcmar and Kurz to beat any one of the ProTour players to be honest, except for Heta and Van Duijvenbode, and Searle and Joyce if they show up.

There are lots of the ProTour players who were great before lockdown and have since hit a brick wall. These could include Razma, Kuivenhoven, Lowe, J Smith, Hamilton, Telnekes, Keegan Brown and Beaton. Any of those you listed at the start would have to be favourite against these.

The only ones that played themselves into the spots are Labanauskas, Murray, Hunt, Boulton and Jones. Darius has form at Ally Pally but the rest have little to no tv pedigree whatsoever, except Jones, who frankly it's a miracle he even made it (off the back of one fluke PC semi-final).

[thegentle]

I fancy Kuivenhoven to blow it. He's been chucking turds non-stop since the Euros and there are a couple of banana skins more than capable of beating him

I reckon McGeeney is toast. Wilson is in dire straits but has a glimmer of hope via A. at least two qualifier withdrawals or B. Kando and Reyes packing it in.

All depends on the draw, there are as always some really good players in the international/invitational field, but unlike in the last few years, there are a considerable number of players there who would be considered real minnows.

McGeeney has a bit of breathing space in the sense that even if Kuivenhoven and Kleermaker win their opening round games, Hunt and everyone below him would need to win at least two games to overtake him, so he's probably odds on to keep his tour card (assuming that they will be giving the tour card to 65th)

100% agree about the international qualifiers. On one hand, the 'big five' to avoid imo are Sedlacek, Keane Barry, Boris Krcmar, Nico Kurz and David Evans, with Ilagan, Lim, Meikle, Ashton, Baggish and the other PDPA guys being capable banana skins.

On the other hand, the rest are either unheard of or complete statistical garbage.

The likes of Kurz, Barry, Baggish, Campbell, Krcmar, Sedlacek and Zonneveld are the cream of the international crop, all quality players on form, they'd fancy their chances against anyone and could even be a threat in round 2 if they make it past round 1. The rest of the tour card holders plus the Oceanic lads, Lauby and Portela are solid enough, would probably give it a good go but would be underdogs whoever they play. Then you've got the likes of Lim, Ilagan, Carolissen, who have clearly got talent, but I've got no idea how they'll do given the lack of experience (in the case of Carolissen) or match practice this year, and then the others are varying degrees of minnow

Forgot about Matt Campbell, he was very impressive vs Dimitri at the World Cup. I've never been convinced about Portela, he's played shit every time I've watched him except his Worlds debut vs Wright where he was decent enough. Puha seems like he should do better as he has potential but often flops on tv, he could benefit from the Challenge Tour.

I fancy Krcmar and Kurz to beat any one of the ProTour players to be honest, except for Heta and Van Duijvenbode, and Searle and Joyce if they show up.

There are lots of the ProTour players who were great before lockdown and have since hit a brick wall. These could include Razma, Kuivenhoven, Lowe, J Smith, Hamilton, Telnekes, Keegan Brown and Beaton. Any of those you listed at the start would have to be favourite against these.

The only ones that played themselves into the spots are Labanauskas, Murray, Hunt, Boulton and Jones. Darius has form at Ally Pally but the rest have little to no tv pedigree whatsoever, except Jones, who frankly it's a miracle he even made it (off the back of one fluke PC semi-final).

Campbell is sticking around for Q-School and apparently is even willing to give the Challenge Tour which is always good to hear, sounds serious about it. Heard Puha has committed to Q-School, which is one hell of a commitment, because of NZ's Covid restrictions, he'll have been in Europe from World Cup time till after Q-School, while he's not quite in the class of some of the best international players (yet anyway), anyone who wants it that much should be commended, I wish him the very best of luck

Can't bloody wait for this now, been a stressful time at work, about 3 weeks to go until I can have some time off, kick back and watch the Greatest Show On Snakey's Green Earth!

[Safc]

All depends on the draw, there are as always some really good players in the international/invitational field, but unlike in the last few years, there are a considerable number of players there who would be considered real minnows.

McGeeney has a bit of breathing space in the sense that even if Kuivenhoven and Kleermaker win their opening round games, Hunt and everyone below him would need to win at least two games to overtake him, so he's probably odds on to keep his tour card (assuming that they will be giving the tour card to 65th)

100% agree about the international qualifiers. On one hand, the 'big five' to avoid imo are Sedlacek, Keane Barry, Boris Krcmar, Nico Kurz and David Evans, with Ilagan, Lim, Meikle, Ashton, Baggish and the other PDPA guys being capable banana skins.

On the other hand, the rest are either unheard of or complete statistical garbage.

The likes of Kurz, Barry, Baggish, Campbell, Krcmar, Sedlacek and Zonneveld are the cream of the international crop, all quality players on form, they'd fancy their chances against anyone and could even be a threat in round 2 if they make it past round 1. The rest of the tour card holders plus the Oceanic lads, Lauby and Portela are solid enough, would probably give it a good go but would be underdogs whoever they play. Then you've got the likes of Lim, Ilagan, Carolissen, who have clearly got talent, but I've got no idea how they'll do given the lack of experience (in the case of Carolissen) or match practice this year, and then the others are varying degrees of minnow

Forgot about Matt Campbell, he was very impressive vs Dimitri at the World Cup. I've never been convinced about Portela, he's played shit every time I've watched him except his Worlds debut vs Wright where he was decent enough. Puha seems like he should do better as he has potential but often flops on tv, he could benefit from the Challenge Tour.

I fancy Krcmar and Kurz to beat any one of the ProTour players to be honest, except for Heta and Van Duijvenbode, and Searle and Joyce if they show up.

There are lots of the ProTour players who were great before lockdown and have since hit a brick wall. These could include Razma, Kuivenhoven, Lowe, J Smith, Hamilton, Telnekes, Keegan Brown and Beaton. Any of those you listed at the start would have to be favourite against these.

The only ones that played themselves into the spots are Labanauskas, Murray, Hunt, Boulton and Jones. Darius has form at Ally Pally but the rest have little to no tv pedigree whatsoever, except Jones, who frankly it's a miracle he even made it (off the back of one fluke PC semi-final).

Campbell is sticking around for Q-School and apparently is even willing to give the Challenge Tour which is always good to hear, sounds serious about it. Heard Puha has committed to Q-School, which is one hell of a commitment, because of NZ's Covid restrictions, he'll have been in Europe from World Cup time till after Q-School, while he's not quite in the class of some of the best international players (yet anyway), anyone who wants it that much should be commended, I wish him the very best of luck

Can't bloody wait for this now, been a stressful time at work, about 3 weeks to go until I can have some time off, kick back and watch the Greatest Show On Snakey's Green Earth!

I'm back tomorrow but then roll on 5pm on the 10th of December then off till the 4th of Jan.

Beauty of having no Summer hols this year.

[tungsten tossers]

Needless to say, a ginormous win for Edgar, whose tour card is now a good 90% safe I'd say. Kuivenhoven could have done without it, obviously he's far from safe, if Hunt and Kleermaker win their first round games (which they'd probably both be favourites for given they'll be up against a non-ProTour qualifier), Maik would need to win his first round game or else he's relying on snookers

It would be great if all 3 won their 1st round games, then we would lose Scabby and Biscuit

Everyone from Hunt down needs two wins at least to jump McGeeney tbf

Hunt is on £34k so 1 win would put in on £41.5.. Maik is on £41

Wait...you're hating on Kuivenhoven who has suddenly developed a McGeeney-like arm?
McGeeney is safe unless three people overtake him, at least one of whom will need to win at least two games, Kuivenhoven needs to win a game, or else just one win from Kleermaker and Hunt will knock him out of the reckoning unless someone else hands in their tour card

Callan Rydz is one who could throw a spanner in the works, as on current form, could easily win 2 games, which would take him above scabby and biscuit..It could be squeaky bum time for a couple of players

[SuperSwede]

Also realised that there are no Spanish representatives at the Worlds for the first time since 2008, Jose is really showing them all up!

Bad timing with PDC Europe saying they are looking at Spain and Portugal as their next Euro Tour destinations. Still potentially big markets mind.

[thegentle]

Also realised that there are no Spanish representatives at the Worlds for the first time since 2008, Jose is really showing them all up!

Bad timing with PDC Europe saying they are looking at Spain and Portugal as their next Euro Tour destinations. Still potentially big markets mind.

I wonder if Spain will be in a position to host darts events any time soon as they got hit hard by Covid (obviously the vaccine is coming out soon supposedly, but economically is it feasible?). Portugal wasn't hit as hard, so logistically I guess that could work, but how much interest is there in darts there? Naturally I hope Jose's success did make a bit of a splash there!

[Tommo]

It would be great if all 3 won their 1st round games, then we would lose Scabby and Biscuit

Everyone from Hunt down needs two wins at least to jump McGeeney tbf

Hunt is on £34k so 1 win would put in on £41.5.. Maik is on £41

Wait...you're hating on Kuivenhoven who has suddenly developed a McGeeney-like arm?
McGeeney is safe unless three people overtake him, at least one of whom will need to win at least two games, Kuivenhoven needs to win a game, or else just one win from Kleermaker and Hunt will knock him out of the reckoning unless someone else hands in their tour card

Callan Rydz is one who could throw a spanner in the works, as on current form, could easily win 2 games, which would take him above scabby and biscuit..It could be squeaky bum time for a couple of players

SAFC won't like this.

[Safc]

Everyone from Hunt down needs two wins at least to jump McGeeney tbf

Hunt is on £34k so 1 win would put in on £41.5.. Maik is on £41

Wait...you're hating on Kuivenhoven who has suddenly developed a McGeeney-like arm?
McGeeney is safe unless three people overtake him, at least one of whom will need to win at least two games, Kuivenhoven needs to win a game, or else just one win from Kleermaker and Hunt will knock him out of the reckoning unless someone else hands in their tour card

Callan Rydz is one who could throw a spanner in the works, as on current form, could easily win 2 games, which would take him above scabby and biscuit..It could be squeaky bum time for a couple of players

SAFC won't like this.

Let's be honest he could quite easily lose his first game aswell.

[The Ginge Reaper]

Why doesn't SAFC like Rydz? Is it because he once went on a forum and said Tony David may have beaten Taylor 5 times out of 1000?