The darts forum definitive all time top 32

[The Thorn]

1. Taylor
2. MVG
3. Bristow
4. G.Anderson
5. Wright
6. J.Wilson
7. Lewis
8. Barney
9. B.Anderson
10. Lowe

I'm interested as to why you have Jocky that high.

Honest answer, I have no clue

[sennafan24]

1. Taylor
2. MVG
3. Bristow
4. G.Anderson
5. Wright
6. J.Wilson
7. Lewis
8. Barney
9. B.Anderson
10. Lowe

I'm interested as to why you have Jocky that high.

Honest answer, I have no clue

Your list isn't terrible in fairness.

[TheMalteseDart]

Humphries?

[The Thorn]

Humphries?

Yes I have just realised

[The Thorn]

If we count Premier League rounds Price is up there too

In proper majors not top 20

[sennafan24]

Humphries in the 2023 GSOD and later rounds of Ally Pally 2024 was a beast.

[TheMalteseDart]

People might argue recency bias but the domination he had in tv events in the 2nd half of 2023 as well as his ET dominance was at a ridiculous level especially to dominate in this era when there's loads of players capable of chucking in a 108 average to knock you out.

I still stand by one of the best players i've watched in peak spells is Peter Wright though, I just think because he's slower than someone like MVG it doesn't look as spectacular

[sennafan24]

Even with modern equipment I imagine it is rare that a player has averaged over 108 in the latter stages at Ally Pally.

Yet Hump did that in his semi-final against Scott Williams.

[sennafan24]

People might argue recency bias but the domination he had in tv events in the 2nd half of 2023 as well as his ET dominance was at a ridiculous level especially to dominate in this era when there's loads of players capable of chucking in a 108 average to knock you out.

I still stand by one of the best players i've watched in peak spells is Peter Wright though, I just think because he's slower than someone like MVG it doesn't look as spectacular

PT13 posted something years ago about this.

Some people used to laugh around 2015 time when I suggested that the new HD boards brought in after the 2014 World Championship were helping Michael van Gerwen, and had harmed Phil Taylor along with his switch from Unicorn darts to Target darts. Go back in darts history though, and the 1970s boards were virtually impossible to stack the darts because of the thick wires, and it was only slightly better for much of the 1980s. Most of the 1990s boards still had staples in them. Up to the 2014 World Championship, it was SD boards. The HD boards since 2014 have changed the game further, and now an Ultra HD board making the targets stand out even further still.

Why did it specifically hurt Taylor and benefit MVG?

Playing styles?

More due to it narrowing the gap at the top of the game when the targets on the board become easier to hit. HD boards weren't the only factor, as there was Taylor's change in darts manufacturer. Van Gerwen did dominate in late 2012 and the first half of 2013 aside from the 2013 World Championship final, so he did prove he could do it on the SD boards, but he did then go 6 months in the second half of 2013 without winning a tournament until the Players Championship Finals.

So the player-friendly boards of today do not just increase averages up and down the field, but also potentially reduce the gap between the top talent and those a tier below.

Which in theory would make it even more difficult for a Humphries to dominate. Meaning him doing so was especially impressive.

[The Thorn]

Well he stated it but no proof

Taylor still my GOAT

[Potter's Lake]

I still stand by one of the best players i've watched in peak spells is Peter Wright though, I just think because he's slower than someone like MVG it doesn't look as spectacular

+1, peak Wright was ridiculous.

Wright's scoring visits since the start of leg 11: 140, 140, 140; 180, 180; 174, 140, 171; 180, 140, 130; 78. 11 scoring visits in a row above 130 across 4 legs.

[sennafan24]

Even with modern equipment I imagine it is rare that a player has averaged over 108 in the latter stages at Ally Pally.

Yet Hump did that in his semi-final against Scott Williams.

Upon checking.

MVG did average 108 in the semis of Ally Pally 2023.

Chizzy averaged 107 to beat MVG in the quarters of Ally Pally 2021.

Beyond those and Hump's there have not been any averages in the latter stages of Ally Pally over 106 this decade.

[sennafan24]

Matchplay 2021 was an example of peak Wright.

Especially in the semi and final.

[shenmue]

Grandslam vs obesehead was scary stuff from the clown, as was the world final of course.

[HalloweenJack]

My original post was genuine but just for you.

1) Taylor
2) MVG
3) Bristow
4) Wadey
5) Hankey
6) Duzza
7) Stefan Lord
8) Parletti
9) Duff
10) Gary Anderson

You really are Thorn's father.

Aye, I guess Randall is his fairy godmother as well.

[sennafan24]

Grandslam vs obesehead was scary stuff from the clown, as was the world final of course.

He unplayable during the final sets of their world final IIRC.

[HalloweenJack]

People might argue recency bias but the domination he had in tv events in the 2nd half of 2023 as well as his ET dominance was at a ridiculous level especially to dominate in this era when there's loads of players capable of chucking in a 108 average to knock you out.

I still stand by one of the best players i've watched in peak spells is Peter Wright though, I just think because he's slower than someone like MVG it doesn't look as spectacular

PT13 posted something years ago about this.

Some people used to laugh around 2015 time when I suggested that the new HD boards brought in after the 2014 World Championship were helping Michael van Gerwen, and had harmed Phil Taylor along with his switch from Unicorn darts to Target darts. Go back in darts history though, and the 1970s boards were virtually impossible to stack the darts because of the thick wires, and it was only slightly better for much of the 1980s. Most of the 1990s boards still had staples in them. Up to the 2014 World Championship, it was SD boards. The HD boards since 2014 have changed the game further, and now an Ultra HD board making the targets stand out even further still.

Why did it specifically hurt Taylor and benefit MVG?

Playing styles?

More due to it narrowing the gap at the top of the game when the targets on the board become easier to hit. HD boards weren't the only factor, as there was Taylor's change in darts manufacturer. Van Gerwen did dominate in late 2012 and the first half of 2013 aside from the 2013 World Championship final, so he did prove he could do it on the SD boards, but he did then go 6 months in the second half of 2013 without winning a tournament until the Players Championship Finals.

So the player-friendly boards of today do not just increase averages up and down the field, but also potentially reduce the gap between the top talent and those a tier below.

Which in theory would make it even more difficult for a Humphries to dominate. Meaning him doing so was especially impressive.

You’re turning into PT13 in this thread.

[shenmue]

Even i felt a bit sorry for obesehead

[shenmue]

Never go full PT13

[sennafan24]

You’re turning into PT13 in this thread.

Thanks.

PT13 is one of my favourite posters on the board.