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Post by Randall » Mon May 06, 2024 6:40 am

Ppv has killed boxing as a major sport
The proliferation of belts hasn't helped either
The days of the general public even knowing who the elite fighters are are long gone
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Re: Boxing

Post by Jimmi » Sun May 12, 2024 9:06 pm

Will likely pay for the Fury - Usyk fight next Saturday

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Post by sennafan24 » Sun May 12, 2024 9:40 pm

I am sticking with my prediction of Usyk to win on points.

However I have a sinking feeling that Fury is going to win. Mostly because he tends to rise to the occasion for his biggest bouts (Wlad in 2015 + Wilder rematch in 2020)
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Post by HalloweenJack » Sun May 12, 2024 9:44 pm

I will say Fury on points.
I am not expecting a great fight and I have a feeling it will be controversial.
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Post by sennafan24 » Sun May 12, 2024 9:46 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 9:44 pm I will say Fury on points.
I am not expecting a great fight and I have a feeling it will be controversial.
In what regard?

Low blows?

Scoring?
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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sun May 12, 2024 10:02 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 9:46 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 9:44 pm I will say Fury on points.
I am not expecting a great fight and I have a feeling it will be controversial.
In what regard?

Low blows?

Scoring?
I suspect there will be some shithousery going on. I just sense this will be a fight that will be close and split opinion with the scorecards.
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Re: Boxing

Post by sennafan24 » Sun May 12, 2024 10:10 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:02 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 9:46 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 9:44 pm I will say Fury on points.
I am not expecting a great fight and I have a feeling it will be controversial.
In what regard?

Low blows?

Scoring?
I suspect there will be some shithousery going on. I just sense this will be a fight that will be close and split opinion with the scorecards.
I hope not.

I want a clear winner.
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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sun May 12, 2024 10:11 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:10 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:02 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 9:46 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 9:44 pm I will say Fury on points.
I am not expecting a great fight and I have a feeling it will be controversial.
In what regard?

Low blows?

Scoring?
I suspect there will be some shithousery going on. I just sense this will be a fight that will be close and split opinion with the scorecards.
I hope not.

I want a clear winner.
I remember Lewis v Holyfield 1 when there was a
clear winner and it was called a draw 🤬
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Re: Boxing

Post by Safc » Sun May 12, 2024 10:12 pm

Cant see how Uysk wins personally absolutely zero chance he knocks Fury out and I'm not sure how he hits Fury enough to win on points
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Post by sennafan24 » Sun May 12, 2024 10:12 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:11 pm I remember Lewis v Holyfield 1 when there was a
clear winner and it was called a draw 🤬
That decision was a disgrace.
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Post by HalloweenJack » Sun May 12, 2024 10:16 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:12 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:11 pm I remember Lewis v Holyfield 1 when there was a
clear winner and it was called a draw 🤬
That decision was a disgrace.
It was seen as a big deal at the time. Nobody anywhere thought Holyfield won or drew that fight.
The rematch was closer but Lewis still won ( i went to that fight)
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Post by sennafan24 » Sun May 12, 2024 10:18 pm

Safc wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:12 pm Cant see how Uysk wins personally absolutely zero chance he knocks Fury out and I'm not sure how he hits Fury enough to win on points
Eh?

Usyk gives Fury a lot of issues on paper.

Fury has struggled with southpaws in the past (Wallin), Usyk is difficult to tie up and establish a jab against, Usyk also has the speed and skill to keep Fury turning and dart in and out.

Fury also has ways to win of course. I do not expect an easy night for either.
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Post by sennafan24 » Sun May 12, 2024 10:20 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:16 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:12 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:11 pm I remember Lewis v Holyfield 1 when there was a
clear winner and it was called a draw 🤬
That decision was a disgrace.
It was seen as a big deal at the time. Nobody anywhere thought Holyfield won or drew that fight.
The rematch was closer but Lewis still won ( i went to that fight)
I was only 11 and recall it being perceived as a robbery also.

There was even a documentary about it on BBC IIRC.
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Post by TheMalteseDart » Sun May 12, 2024 10:36 pm

Safc wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:12 pm Cant see how Uysk wins personally absolutely zero chance he knocks Fury out and I'm not sure how he hits Fury enough to win on points
Fury's performance against Ngannou concerns me. Then again, it was a while ago but I feel like I recall not being too impressed with Usyk in his last fight also. Fury has to slow down eventually, it may be true he was purely complacent against Ngannou but it could also be the case he's just no where near as sharp as he used to be.

I like to bet on the big fights but I don't think i'm touching it, i can't call it
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Post by sennafan24 » Sun May 12, 2024 10:43 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:36 pm
Safc wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:12 pm Cant see how Uysk wins personally absolutely zero chance he knocks Fury out and I'm not sure how he hits Fury enough to win on points
Fury's performance against Ngannou concerns me. Then again, it was a while ago but I feel like I recall not being too impressed with Usyk in his last fight also. Fury has to slow down eventually, it may be true he was purely complacent against Ngannou but it could also be the case he's just no where near as sharp as he used to be.

I like to bet on the big fights but I don't think i'm touching it, i can't call it
Fury was slowing before the Ngannou bout. He didn't look that great against Chisora (who was shopworn). He was especially poor against Ngannou, who also had the ability to rough up in the clinch, something previous opponents did not have.

Fury hasn't lived the life over the years, pilling on weight and then having to lose it. It is therefore very possible that he has simply slowed down and his reflexes are not what they used to be.
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Post by Safc » Sun May 12, 2024 10:45 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:36 pm
Safc wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:12 pm Cant see how Uysk wins personally absolutely zero chance he knocks Fury out and I'm not sure how he hits Fury enough to win on points
Fury's performance against Ngannou concerns me. Then again, it was a while ago but I feel like I recall not being too impressed with Usyk in his last fight also. Fury has to slow down eventually, it may be true he was purely complacent against Ngannou but it could also be the case he's just no where near as sharp as he used to be.

I like to bet on the big fights but I don't think i'm touching it, i can't call it
Fury by KO 10-12 for me.

If people think Uysk can win they should be backing him on points at 2/1 as like i said above I just can't see how he can knock Fury out. If he can't knock Chisora and Joshua out how is he knocking Fury out.
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Post by sennafan24 » Sun May 12, 2024 10:48 pm

Safc wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:45 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:36 pm
Safc wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:12 pm Cant see how Uysk wins personally absolutely zero chance he knocks Fury out and I'm not sure how he hits Fury enough to win on points
Fury's performance against Ngannou concerns me. Then again, it was a while ago but I feel like I recall not being too impressed with Usyk in his last fight also. Fury has to slow down eventually, it may be true he was purely complacent against Ngannou but it could also be the case he's just no where near as sharp as he used to be.

I like to bet on the big fights but I don't think i'm touching it, i can't call it
Fury by KO 10-12 for me.

If people think Uysk can win they should be backing him on points at 2/1 as like i said above I just can't see how he can knock Fury out. If he can't knock Chisora and Joshua out how is he knocking Fury out.
I do not think anyone is expecting Usyk to stop Fury.

I can't see Fury stopping Usyk either. Usyk has a great chin. Yes, he is vulnerable to body shots, as Joshua showed in their rematch, but he recovered very well and then adapted after he was hurt.
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Post by shenmue » Sun May 12, 2024 10:49 pm

I keep changing my mind but fury at his best i believe wins but just not sure which fury will turn up, usyk im confident will perform well.

I just hope there's a non controversial ending.

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Post by sennafan24 » Sun May 12, 2024 10:53 pm

shenmue wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:49 pm I keep changing my mind but fury at his best i believe wins but just not sure which fury will turn up, usyk im confident will perform well.

I just hope there's a non controversial ending.
Fury has always been inconsistent.

The questions now are has his body simply aged this time and/or is Usyk simply a terrible style match-up for him?
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Post by Safc » Sun May 12, 2024 10:56 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:48 pm
Safc wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:45 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:36 pm
Safc wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:12 pm Cant see how Uysk wins personally absolutely zero chance he knocks Fury out and I'm not sure how he hits Fury enough to win on points
Fury's performance against Ngannou concerns me. Then again, it was a while ago but I feel like I recall not being too impressed with Usyk in his last fight also. Fury has to slow down eventually, it may be true he was purely complacent against Ngannou but it could also be the case he's just no where near as sharp as he used to be.

I like to bet on the big fights but I don't think i'm touching it, i can't call it
Fury by KO 10-12 for me.

If people think Uysk can win they should be backing him on points at 2/1 as like i said above I just can't see how he can knock Fury out. If he can't knock Chisora and Joshua out how is he knocking Fury out.
I do not think anyone is expecting Usyk to stop Fury.

I can't see Fury stopping Usyk either. Usyk has a great chin. Yes, he is vulnerable to body shots, as Joshua showed in their rematch, but he recovered very well and then adapted after he was hurt.
Bookies aren't giving anything away really they are covering themselves every way.

Like I said above for Uysk backers 2/1 on points or 3/1 by unanimous decision if a bit braver look the better value than evens just to win
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