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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by vizIIsto » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:50 pm

The Thorn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:46 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:39 pm
The Thorn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:34 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:32 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:31 pm The PDC is no better than FIFA at this point.
In hindsight, considering I once suggested for the winner of the Women's Series to receive a Tour Card in the same way winners of the Challenge/Development Tour got one, in a year during which Fallon had won that Series, I should remain neutral on this.
This really shouldn't be turned into a women vs men issue. It has nothing to do with that. It has all to do with a player getting an unfair spot in the Worlds. Doesn't really matter that it's Fallon or anyone else

The PDC did it with Devon, Ratajski and someone else a few years ago too. It was just as wrong as this
Wasn't it in 2021 when there was no South American qualifier that they just said "well, Diogo it is".
The incident I'm referring to was in 2017 when Ratajski, Petersen and Jeff Smith just got shoehorned in without a qualifier
2018? Both Smith and Ratajski played in the 2017 BAD World Championship. I remember watching that for some reason.




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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by Dfc180 » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:52 pm

The Thorn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:34 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:32 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:31 pm The PDC is no better than FIFA at this point.
In hindsight, considering I once suggested for the winner of the Women's Series to receive a Tour Card in the same way winners of the Challenge/Development Tour got one, in a year during which Fallon had won that Series, I should remain neutral on this.
This really shouldn't be turned into a women vs men issue. It has nothing to do with that. It has all to do with a player getting an unfair spot in the Worlds. Doesn't really matter that it's Fallon or anyone else

The PDC did it with Devon, Ratajski and someone else a few years ago too. It was just as wrong as this
It's not an unfair place, it just should have been said when she won the matchplay not 5 months later

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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by vizIIsto » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:54 pm

From Wikipedia:

The final four qualification places were announced on 19 October, with places being given to the highest ranked Eastern European, Krzysztof Ratajski, the National Darts Federation of Canada number one Jeff Smith, the highest ranked African, Devon Petersen, and the then-undetermined 2017 Development Tour winner, Luke Humphries.The sudden announcement of these places, and the granting of them to Ratajski, who had declined an invitation to the rival 2018 BDO World Darts Championship before failing to qualify through the 2017 PDC Pro Tour Order of Merit; and Jeff Smith, who had failed to qualify for the BDO World Darts Championship and not played a single PDC event in the previous year, were criticized by some, with ITV4 pundit and tour card holder Paul Nicholson saying he had written to the Professional Darts Players Association to seek clarification over the placings.

To be fair, when Jeff Smith is the player that arguably performed the least in the PDC of those four - being a BDO Worlds runner-up - this didn't turn out so horrible.
I can't imagine Fallon getting anywhere near Jeff Smith's level of play, on consistency alone.




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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by The Thorn » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:55 pm

vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:50 pm
The Thorn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:46 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:39 pm
The Thorn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:34 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:32 pm

In hindsight, considering I once suggested for the winner of the Women's Series to receive a Tour Card in the same way winners of the Challenge/Development Tour got one, in a year during which Fallon had won that Series, I should remain neutral on this.
This really shouldn't be turned into a women vs men issue. It has nothing to do with that. It has all to do with a player getting an unfair spot in the Worlds. Doesn't really matter that it's Fallon or anyone else

The PDC did it with Devon, Ratajski and someone else a few years ago too. It was just as wrong as this
Wasn't it in 2021 when there was no South American qualifier that they just said "well, Diogo it is".
The incident I'm referring to was in 2017 when Ratajski, Petersen and Jeff Smith just got shoehorned in without a qualifier
2018? Both Smith and Ratajski played in the 2017 BAD World Championship. I remember watching that for some reason.
Correct

It happened in 2017 which obviously effected the 2018 World Champs
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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by The Thorn » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:55 pm

Dfc180 wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:52 pm
The Thorn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:34 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:32 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:31 pm The PDC is no better than FIFA at this point.
In hindsight, considering I once suggested for the winner of the Women's Series to receive a Tour Card in the same way winners of the Challenge/Development Tour got one, in a year during which Fallon had won that Series, I should remain neutral on this.
This really shouldn't be turned into a women vs men issue. It has nothing to do with that. It has all to do with a player getting an unfair spot in the Worlds. Doesn't really matter that it's Fallon or anyone else

The PDC did it with Devon, Ratajski and someone else a few years ago too. It was just as wrong as this
It's not an unfair place, it just should have been said when she won the matchplay not 5 months later
It should have been announced before a dart was thrown in the event. Which is why it's unfair. Players didn't know what they were playing for
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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by PT13 » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:06 pm

vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:31 pm The PDC is no better than FIFA at this point.
It's Eddie Hearn. He isn't good at PR and self awareness. This is a guy who wanted Conor Benn to fight a severely weight drained Chris Eubank Jr. after Benn had tested positive for a banned fertility drug, and threatened to sue the BBBoC when they refused to sanction the fight. Eddie's desperation for the fight money was like a heroin addict desperate for their next fix. It was embarrassing.

Regarding Fallon Sherrock, I was actually a bit surprised that they didn't give the Women's World Matchplay winner a World Championship spot anyway. Fallon will probably get more hate now because of how badly the PR with this has been handled.

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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by Suspect Device » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:26 pm

I'm losing the concept of 128 tour card holders in the PDC, but I must say what a Great job the PDPA do for their members.

Bobbi said on twitter what most are thinking. Being glued to Beau's side she has first hand insight to what goes on with the women and says there's no hate from them. Though i'm surprised she's not been reigned in and told to not comment on Fallon's inclusion. Male dart players on the other hand are shit scared to speak out. Then again they are represented by a silent association that Mardle thought he could run and do a better job. Imagine him at the helm right now? Not only a pdc yes man but a snidey grass.
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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by Mabbsy » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:03 pm

"We don't owe the players a living"

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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by Suspect Device » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:40 pm

The mother of the whippersnapper has waded in. I respect her opinion, not only as a woman but as a dart player (she hit a 180 in a recent league match so not that bad) and avid supporter of the game/all codes. She said "Fallon favouritism is getting ridiculous now, a fucking piss take" and she is impartial.
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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by thegentle » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:25 pm

The Thorn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:34 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:32 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:31 pm The PDC is no better than FIFA at this point.
In hindsight, considering I once suggested for the winner of the Women's Series to receive a Tour Card in the same way winners of the Challenge/Development Tour got one, in a year during which Fallon had won that Series, I should remain neutral on this.
This really shouldn't be turned into a women vs men issue. It has nothing to do with that. It has all to do with a player getting an unfair spot in the Worlds. Doesn't really matter that it's Fallon or anyone else

The PDC did it with Devon, Ratajski and someone else a few years ago too. It was just as wrong as this
Tbf, when Devon got invited, that was at least partially the South African organisers' fault for being completely incompetent. I don't think anyone would have had an issue with the Women's Matchplay being given a spot at Ally Pally at the start of the year, but to shoehorn it in now leaves a sour taste, and the PDC know that or else they wouldn't have done it on the downlow lol
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Post by thegentle » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:27 pm

I do wonder if Greaves would have got the nod had Sherrock finished 2nd on the Women's Series OoM? Greaves certainly didn't play like she knew her place was assured in that final event!
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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by Safc » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:30 pm

thegentle wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:25 pm
The Thorn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:34 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:32 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:31 pm The PDC is no better than FIFA at this point.
In hindsight, considering I once suggested for the winner of the Women's Series to receive a Tour Card in the same way winners of the Challenge/Development Tour got one, in a year during which Fallon had won that Series, I should remain neutral on this.
This really shouldn't be turned into a women vs men issue. It has nothing to do with that. It has all to do with a player getting an unfair spot in the Worlds. Doesn't really matter that it's Fallon or anyone else

The PDC did it with Devon, Ratajski and someone else a few years ago too. It was just as wrong as this
Tbf, when Devon got invited, that was at least partially the South African organisers' fault for being completely incompetent. I don't think anyone would have had an issue with the Women's Matchplay being given a spot at Ally Pally at the start of the year, but to shoehorn it in now leaves a sour taste, and the PDC know that or else they wouldn't have done it on the downlow lol
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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by The Thorn » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:39 pm

thegentle wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:25 pm
The Thorn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:34 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:32 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:31 pm The PDC is no better than FIFA at this point.
In hindsight, considering I once suggested for the winner of the Women's Series to receive a Tour Card in the same way winners of the Challenge/Development Tour got one, in a year during which Fallon had won that Series, I should remain neutral on this.
This really shouldn't be turned into a women vs men issue. It has nothing to do with that. It has all to do with a player getting an unfair spot in the Worlds. Doesn't really matter that it's Fallon or anyone else

The PDC did it with Devon, Ratajski and someone else a few years ago too. It was just as wrong as this
Tbf, when Devon got invited, that was at least partially the South African organisers' fault for being completely incompetent. I don't think anyone would have had an issue with the Women's Matchplay being given a spot at Ally Pally at the start of the year, but to shoehorn it in now leaves a sour taste, and the PDC know that or else they wouldn't have done it on the downlow lol
Fair, what about Ratty and Jeff Smith?
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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by thegentle » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:31 pm

The Thorn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:39 pm
thegentle wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:25 pm
The Thorn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:34 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:32 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:31 pm The PDC is no better than FIFA at this point.
In hindsight, considering I once suggested for the winner of the Women's Series to receive a Tour Card in the same way winners of the Challenge/Development Tour got one, in a year during which Fallon had won that Series, I should remain neutral on this.
This really shouldn't be turned into a women vs men issue. It has nothing to do with that. It has all to do with a player getting an unfair spot in the Worlds. Doesn't really matter that it's Fallon or anyone else

The PDC did it with Devon, Ratajski and someone else a few years ago too. It was just as wrong as this
Tbf, when Devon got invited, that was at least partially the South African organisers' fault for being completely incompetent. I don't think anyone would have had an issue with the Women's Matchplay being given a spot at Ally Pally at the start of the year, but to shoehorn it in now leaves a sour taste, and the PDC know that or else they wouldn't have done it on the downlow lol
Fair, what about Ratty and Jeff Smith?
Ratajski would have got in under the old system where the next 4 best Europeans on the ProTour got in, so was unlucky in that regard, but it was arbitrary how he ended up getting the spot (especially as he turned up to the regional qualifier and lost). Smith was probably the worst one, if I remember correctly he topped a local Canadian ranking list from the year before or something, though he did beat Humphries (who as the winner of the Development Tour got an invite) in the prelim round quite convincingly
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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by CritBox » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:44 pm

Thorny Boy apogise to me lol
Told you so.
http://www.thedartsforum.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1327832

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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by Keyz180 » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:48 pm

Dfc180 wrote:
The Thorn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:34 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:32 pm
vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:31 pm The PDC is no better than FIFA at this point.
In hindsight, considering I once suggested for the winner of the Women's Series to receive a Tour Card in the same way winners of the Challenge/Development Tour got one, in a year during which Fallon had won that Series, I should remain neutral on this.
This really shouldn't be turned into a women vs men issue. It has nothing to do with that. It has all to do with a player getting an unfair spot in the Worlds. Doesn't really matter that it's Fallon or anyone else

The PDC did it with Devon, Ratajski and someone else a few years ago too. It was just as wrong as this
It's not an unfair place, it just should have been said when she won the matchplay not 5 months later
Because they expected her to get in via the women’s series but she didn’t. So they have gerrymandered the rules. It stinks to high heaven.

Hope the crowd boo her and she goes out first round. Sky have got to be the driving force behind this decision


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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by Ross, Bob » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:49 pm

Suspect Device wrote:I'm losing the concept of 128 tour card holders in the PDC, but I must say what a Great job the PDPA do for their members.

Bobbi said on twitter what most are thinking. Being glued to Beau's side she has first hand insight to what goes on with the women and says there's no hate from them. Though i'm surprised she's not been reigned in and told to not comment on Fallon's inclusion. Male dart players on the other hand are shit scared to speak out. Then again they are represented by a silent association that Gobshite Mardle thought he could run and do a better job. Imagine him at the helm right now? Not only a pdc yes man but a snidey grass.
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vizIIsto wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:31 pm The PDC is no better than FIFA at this point.
It's Eddie Hearn. He isn't good at PR and self awareness. This is a guy who wanted Conor Benn to fight a severely weight drained Chris Eubank Jr. after Benn had tested positive for a banned fertility drug, and threatened to sue the BBBoC when they refused to sanction the fight. Eddie's desperation for the fight money was like a heroin addict desperate for their next fix. It was embarrassing.

Regarding Fallon Sherrock, I was actually a bit surprised that they didn't give the Women's World Matchplay winner a World Championship spot anyway. Fallon will probably get more hate now because of how badly the PR with this has been handled.
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Re: Fallon is in the Worlds

Post by TheMalteseDart » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:53 pm

CritBox wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:44 pm Thorny Boy apogise to me lol
Told you so.
http://www.thedartsforum.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1327832
Well done mate for remembering this, daily thorn slander has to continue to be done by all of us!
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