Question about scoring

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Question about scoring

Post by vizIIsto » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:57 am

Hello guys!
I have a question here which is related to scoring.
It happened during my daily darts practice routine. I had this strange throw, where the third dart I threw was resting on top of a wire, but I could not see if the tip of the dart was touching the board or not. It didn't fell out because it rested on top of the other two darts: one was just above and one was well under.
How many points should that dart score?
I have made a few pictures, if you want me to show them I can show them, but if I can't determine from those pictures if the tip is in or not, I'm not sure if you can...
Thx in advance!! :geek:

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Re: Question about scoring

Post by Randall » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:18 am

If it's not touching the board it scores nothing
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Re: Question about scoring

Post by vizIIsto » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:30 am

Randall wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:18 am
If it's not touching the board it scores nothing
I know about the rule that if the tip of the point is not touching the sisal, it does not score any points.
But I couldn't see if the tip was touching or not. Then what do I do?

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Re: Question about scoring

Post by Emulsfier » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:39 am

If you are playing in competition then the ref would make a judgement call as to whether it is touching or not.

If its a freindly game, you and your opponent should decide. Depends how mean your opponent feels.
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Re: Question about scoring

Post by Randall » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:41 am

vizIIsto wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:30 am
Randall wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:18 am
If it's not touching the board it scores nothing
I know about the rule that if the tip of the point is not touching the sisal, it does not score any points.
But I couldn't see if the tip was touching or not. Then what do I do?
You have to make a decision one way or another.
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Re: Question about scoring

Post by vizIIsto » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:55 am

I might as well show the images here, then you'll probably understand what I am talking about:
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I took these images from multiple angles but on none of them could I be sure if there was daylight between the point and the sisal... That's the question I am asking. What should a dart score if a referee can not possibly determine if the point is touching a certain area of the board or not?

Here's another photo but it is sideways because I took it with my phone upright :oops: :
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Re: Question about scoring

Post by Randall » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:05 pm

If it cant be determined to be in the board it scores nothing.
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Re: Question about scoring

Post by vizIIsto » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:09 pm

So this should score nothing?
Do you think it touches the board? I couldn't possibly tell the difference..

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Re: Question about scoring

Post by Randall » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:11 pm

It looks like its clearly in the Board from the picture but if it cant be determined to be in the referee would score it zero.
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Re: Question about scoring

Post by vizIIsto » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:14 pm

So you're saying that if it is impossible to see if the point is touching the board or not, it should be deemed 'not touching'?

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Re: Question about scoring

Post by Randall » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:19 pm

Yes but it still look like a scoring dart.
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Re: Question about scoring

Post by vizIIsto » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:28 pm

That's the discussion thing. I'm tending to that the point is resting on the wire and because of the other dart being in, it seems like the point is not in.
I mean, it was kind of a bouncer...

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Re: Question about scoring

Post by vizIIsto » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:35 pm

I had a similar shot to this about a week ago. I was practicing bull shots and the first and second darts were bullseye and 25. I missed the bull completely and then tried to hit a 125. Then this shot happened:

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The dart is, like, stuck in between the point and the bullseye ring. I couldn't see if it was in or not because the point and the board pretty much obstructed a good view of any angle. I asked Worldwide Darts about his opinion and he said he thought it wasn't touching the sisal, so it's not counting. 75, therefore, and not 125?

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Re: Question about scoring

Post by Randall » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:43 pm

Pretty much any opponent would accept it was 125.
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Re: Question about scoring

Post by vizIIsto » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:45 pm

And Worldwide Darts.

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Re: Question about scoring

Post by Randall » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:53 pm

Who looks that closely in a game in all honesty.
That would be called 125 all day long
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Re: Question about scoring

Post by StevieBoy » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:59 pm

I wouldn't even question it looks like a scoring dart to me

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Re: Question about scoring

Post by Randall » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:01 pm

StevieBoy wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:59 pm
I wouldn't even question it looks like a scoring dart to me
Exactly
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Re: Question about scoring

Post by M H » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:12 pm

Dear fucking God, who cares!
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Re: Question about scoring

Post by D & B » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:26 pm

Wouldn’t happen if you played on regulation boards.

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