What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

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What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by Randall » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:08 pm

After the world's and world cup he looked set fair.
Made a final but has since vanished.
Lost 6-0 today averaging 78 to the guy he beat in the youth final last year.
How can someone so good be so bad?
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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by cannibal » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:35 pm

Simple question that most likely has a very complicated answer. Hopefully his youth is in his favor as he has time to fix things and have a good career. Same thing can be asked of Webby, was a finger young player and out all went wrong for him.
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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by Randall » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:50 pm

cannibal wrote:Simple question that most likely has a very complicated answer. Hopefully his youth is in his favor as he has time to fix things and have a good career. Same thing can be asked of Webby, was a finger young player and out all went wrong for him.
Webster got the yips, and the pl famously destroyed his confidence.

Couldn't put any cause on the board to Dimitri total collapse.
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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by Rogg » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:13 pm

He said at the World Series that the Players Championships are too early (in the day) which means he struggles to prepare for them.

Encouraging.
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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by Randall » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:14 pm

Rogg wrote:He said at the World Series that the Players Championships are too early (in the day) which means he struggles to prepare for them.

Encouraging.
Had quite long enough to adapt now.
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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by Chizzyfan » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:18 pm

What was ever right with him? Overrated like so many other people because he is young.
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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by Randall » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:23 pm

Chizzyfan wrote:What was ever right with him? Overrated like so many other people because he is young.
Close to a banning offence, there.
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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by Rogg » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:03 pm

All his TV (singles) matches, calendar years 2017 and 2018.



EUROS 2017
(102.80) Johnny Clayton 6-1 Dimitri Van den Bergh (86.76)

WORLD SERIES FINALS 2017
(100.11) Dimitri Van den Bergh 6-1 Michael Smith (97.44)
(102.00) Dimitri Van den Bergh 6-4 Raymond Van Barneveld (90.73)
(91.69) James Wade 10-6 Dimitri Van den Bergh (96.57)

YOUTH WORLD FINAL 2017
(101.23) Dimitri Van den Bergh 6-3 Josh Payne (.....)

WORLDS 2018
(104.17) Dimitri Van den Bergh 3-1 Stephen Bunting (98.14)
(94.91) Dimitri Van den Bergh 4-2 Jan Dekker (97.27)
(96.60) Dimitri Van den Bergh 4-0 Mensur Suljovic (94.35)
(97.13) Rob Cross 5-4 Dimitri Van den Bergh (98.60)

UK OPEN 2018
(89.22) Lee Evans 6-3 Dimitri Van den Bergh (87.70)

WORLD SERIES (GERMANY) 2018
(109.98) Dimitri Van den Bergh 6-0 Martin Schindler (84.12)
(94.35) Dimitri Van den Bergh 8-3 Michael van Gerwen (98.72)
(92.47) Dimitri Van den Bergh 8-7 Gary Anderson (98.76)
(101.63) Mensur Suljovic 8-2 Dimitri Van den Bergh (86.66)

WORLD CUP 2018
(100.04) Dimitri Van den Bergh 4-1 Kim Viljanen (86.81)
(91.25) Dimitri Van den Bergh 4-3 Dave Chisnall (86.86)
(113.38) Raymond Van Barneveld 4-2 Dimitri Van den Bergh (107.54)
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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by Randall » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:05 pm

Contrast that with his floor form and it's massive.
Great if you can play on stage, but if you can't do it on the floor, you won't be there.
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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by Rogg » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:18 pm

The contrast is too daft for words. Needs an alarm clock and a slap.

Once that Ally Pally Quarter-Final money comes off in January 2020 he could be heading back to Q-School. Stupid.
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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by Randall » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:19 pm

Rogg wrote:The contrast is too daft for words. Needs an alarm clock and a slap.

Once that Ally Pally Quarter-Final money comes off in January 2020 he could be heading back to Q-School. Stupid.
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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by The Thorn » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:36 pm

It's baffling really, only explanation I can think of is lack of motivation in the floor events

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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by tungsten tossers » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:29 pm

I think that he has started to believe a bit too much in all hype and attention he gets in the TV tournaments.
Although he was superb in the WC, the way Kim was bigging him up was bit OTT.
The Same at Ally pally. Sky will always go OTT with anyone who has something marketable, so they go mad to give him airtime for his dancing etc and he certainly likes the camera does Dimitri.
It is now about how he is managed, including his dad who I believe, travels a lot with him...
I am not so certain that the PC events are too early for him, as he has never had an issue playing afternoon sessions on TV. Maybe it is the lack of TV cameras that prevent him from self motivation.
I really like the guy and would love him to reach the top 10, but he needs a big kick up the arse, otherwise as was mentioned earlier, a bad ally pally for him, could see him start to fall down the rankings.
At the moment JdZ looks a better prospect for the top 16 than Dimitri

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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by Randall » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:31 pm

I dream of both in a world final.....
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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by tungsten tossers » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:36 pm

Randall wrote:I dream of both in a world final.....
You may be waiting some time for that :P

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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by thegentle » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:03 am

tungsten tossers wrote:
Randall wrote:I dream of both in a world final.....
You may be waiting some time for that :P
Well that's the thing, both could easily storm Ally Pally in December and make it while monumentally fucking up on the ProTour!
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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by Randall » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:37 am

thegentle wrote:
tungsten tossers wrote:
Randall wrote:I dream of both in a world final.....
You may be waiting some time for that :P
Well that's the thing, both could easily storm Ally Pally in December and make it while monumentally fucking up on the ProTour!
This is the kind of thinking I like!
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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by tungsten tossers » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:12 am

thegentle wrote:
tungsten tossers wrote:
Randall wrote:I dream of both in a world final.....
You may be waiting some time for that :P
Well that's the thing, both could easily storm Ally Pally in December and make it while monumentally fucking up on the ProTour!
Indeed... once those camera start rolling, Dimitri will come alive..

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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by The Thorn » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:13 am

tungsten tossers wrote:
thegentle wrote:
tungsten tossers wrote:
Randall wrote:I dream of both in a world final.....
You may be waiting some time for that :P
Well that's the thing, both could easily storm Ally Pally in December and make it while monumentally fucking up on the ProTour!
Indeed... once those camera start rolling, Dimitri will come alive..
If he manages to qualify, that is.

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Re: What has gone wrong for Dimitri?

Post by Randall » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:48 am

The Thorn wrote:
tungsten tossers wrote:
thegentle wrote:
tungsten tossers wrote:
Randall wrote:I dream of both in a world final.....
You may be waiting some time for that :P
Well that's the thing, both could easily storm Ally Pally in December and make it while monumentally fucking up on the ProTour!
Indeed... once those camera start rolling, Dimitri will come alive..
If he manages to qualify, that is.
Surely that catastrophe can't happen.
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