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No way MVG will ever win as many titles as Deta.

Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:07 pm Bristow is just stories to anybody under 40 and I just realised with mild horror that the upcoming Worlds marks a decade since Taylor won it.

Wow.. it really doesn't seem that long ago

tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:01 pm

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:35 pm Van Goblin is nowhere near Taylor in terms of either career achievements or ability.

I think peak MvG is on a par with peak Philth when it comes to ability with high averages etc but he is nowhere near Philth, and never will be, in regards of achievements..

At the risk of sounding like Randall, you have to remember that MVG's best averages were set post-2015 when the boards were changed.

PT13 explains why that was such a factor here - viewtopic.php?p=1192420#p1192405

Even with the board changes, Van Gobin has never produced a tournament like Taylor did at the 2009 European Championship - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Euro ... ip_(darts)

sennafan24 wrote:Van Goblin is nowhere near Taylor in terms of either career achievements or ability.

Is the correct answer

Adorable.

And the correct spelling for once

Another thing Taylor has in his favour is longevity.

He was the outright best player in the world consistently from the early 1990s up until the early 2010s.

fandarts wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:24 am probably will go down as the greatest (even though he never won at lakeside) will probably end up with close to ten world titles if he goes till he is 40, in this climate that would be outstanding, taylor was beating reg harding and women players for some of his early tinpot wdc titles

Over 5 years ago ffs:

Randall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:43 pm

Justin Credible wrote:

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your spelling is getting worse each week

It's auto correct on the fucking phone

tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:01 pm

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:35 pm Van Goblin is nowhere near Taylor in terms of either career achievements or ability.

I think peak MvG is on a par with peak Philth when it comes to ability with high averages etc but he is nowhere near Philth, and never will be, in regards of achievements..

Peak Philth vs peak Baldfish is a close game, but I think Philth would prevail at the end. So, +1

Taylor was matching mvgs numbers on boards with trebles and doubles half the size
Ludicrous to say they are the same

On and on we go. Well played Greipel.

Gidra wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:41 pm

tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:01 pm

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:35 pm Van Goblin is nowhere near Taylor in terms of either career achievements or ability.

I think peak MvG is on a par with peak Philth when it comes to ability with high averages etc but he is nowhere near Philth, and never will be, in regards of achievements..

Peak Philth vs peak Baldfish is a close game, but I think Philth would prevail at the end. So, +1

Drawing merely from eye-test, I get the impression that Peak Taylor was more consistent than Peak MVG.

Thus, under a Matchplay format, I think Peak Taylor wins quite convincingly.

Randall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:44 pm Taylor was matching mvgs numbers on boards with trebles and doubles half the size Ludicrous to say they are the same

Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:44 pm On and on we go. Well played Greipel.

+1

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:47 pm

Gidra wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:41 pm

tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:01 pm

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:35 pm Van Goblin is nowhere near Taylor in terms of either career achievements or ability.

I think peak MvG is on a par with peak Philth when it comes to ability with high averages etc but he is nowhere near Philth, and never will be, in regards of achievements..

Peak Philth vs peak Baldfish is a close game, but I think Philth would prevail at the end. So, +1

Drawing merely from eye-test, I get the impression that Peak Taylor was more consistent than Peak MVG. Thus, under a Matchplay format, I think Peak Taylor wins quite convincingly.

I don't think anyone is disputing that peak Philth is and will always be the greatest ever dart player....

But I don't think that peak Philth would wipe the floor with peak MvG day in and day out

You've done it now mate.

tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:51 pm I don't think anyone is disputing that peak Philth is and will always be the greatest ever dart player.... But I don't think that peak Philth would wipe the floor with peak MvG day in and day out

MVG would win battles, but not the war, if that makes sense.

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:54 pm

tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:51 pm I don't think anyone is disputing that peak Philth is and will always be the greatest ever dart player.... But I don't think that peak Philth would wipe the floor with peak MvG day in and day out

MVG would win battles, but not the war, if that makes sense.

totally agree

That's very balanced senna. Fair.

Now let's see what the author of The Ladybird Book of Big Doug makes of it. If he mentions Michael's tear ducts you owe me.