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Post by bristowfan69 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:04 am

The Ginge Reaper wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:04 am
bristowfan69 wrote:Kalashnikov is around number 100 in the wor,d for me personally
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Re: Random Dart Stuff

Post by sennafan24 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:06 am

oche balboa wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:53 am
sennafan24 wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:49 am
oche balboa wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:38 am Klaasen is better then most players in the Nontcs and PDC world
Where would you rank him overall?

Top 32? Top 50?
Not sure at all. He's better then 20-30 TC's to begin with
I doubt he's top 32 material on current form.
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Post by oche balboa » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:06 am

Never said he was
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Post by bristowfan69 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:08 am

Joelle was one of the best players in the world once.
He may not be able to regain that form, it’s harder now with more strength in depth and more good players around.
But it’s possible if he can regain his form and become more consistent and play his A game more often.

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Post by Greipel » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:20 am

bristowfan69 wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:08 am Joelle was one of the best players in the world once.
He may not be able to regain that form, it’s harder now with more strength in depth and more good players around.
But it’s possible if he can regain his form and become more consistent and play his A game more often.
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Post by bristowfan69 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:23 am

Greipel wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:20 am
bristowfan69 wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:08 am Joelle was one of the best players in the world once.
He may not be able to regain that form, it’s harder now with more strength in depth and more good players around.
But it’s possible if he can regain his form and become more consistent and play his A game more often.
Get monkeypox, faggot.
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Re: Random Dart Stuff

Post by sennafan24 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:14 pm

oche balboa wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:06 am Never said he was
I don't see any evidence that Klaasen is top 64 material at present time.

I checked his averages on Darts Orakel. So far in 2023 his overall average is 87.21, which puts him at 153th in the world.

I know averages can be misleading, but surely if he was a slam-dunk top 64 level player his overall average would be higher?
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Post by bristowfan69 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:16 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:14 pm
oche balboa wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:06 am Never said he was
I don't see any evidence that Klaasen is top 64 material at present time.

I checked his averages on Darts Orakel. So far in 2023 his overall average is 87.21, which puts him at 153th in the world.

I know averages can be misleading, but surely if he was a slam-dunk top 64 level player his overall average would be higher?
Haven't some players from about 55 to 64 in the PDC OOM got a yearly average of around that?

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Re: Random Dart Stuff

Post by The Thorn » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:17 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:14 pm
oche balboa wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:06 am Never said he was
I don't see any evidence that Klaasen is top 64 material at present time.

I checked his averages on Darts Orakel. So far in 2023 his overall average is 87.21, which puts him at 153th in the world.

I know averages can be misleading, but surely if he was a slam-dunk top 64 level player his overall average would be higher?
Agreed. Top 64 is a stretch in current form. If he got a tour card he would be odds against to keep it.
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Re: Random Dart Stuff

Post by sennafan24 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:29 pm

The only non-TC holder in the top 40 of the averages list this year is Baetens, who is ranked 36th.

I think we all agree that Baetens is tour card worthy and should win a card in the future.

The rest of the WDF top-ranked players are not really out of place outside of the PDC.
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Post by bristowfan69 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:31 pm

I think Baetens's high averages are irrelevant as he's presumably played less games than the PDC Planes

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Post by Greipel » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:51 pm

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Post by bristowfan69 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:53 pm

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Re: Random Dart Stuff

Post by sennafan24 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:56 pm

bristowfan69 wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:31 pm I think Baetens's high averages are irrelevant as he's presumably played less games than the PDC Planes
Regardless, he's clearly the best talent out of the non-TC holders.

Unless you believe chumps like Neil Duff are superior.
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Post by bristowfan69 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:01 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:56 pm
bristowfan69 wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:31 pm I think Baetens's high averages are irrelevant as he's presumably played less games than the PDC Planes
Regardless, he's clearly the best talent out of the non-TC holders.

Unless you believe chumps like Neil Duff are superior.
Duff actually won the title though. Although of course nowadays Baetens is better

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Re: Random Dart Stuff

Post by oche balboa » Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:10 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:14 pm
oche balboa wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:06 am Never said he was
I don't see any evidence that Klaasen is top 64 material at present time.

I checked his averages on Darts Orakel. So far in 2023 his overall average is 87.21, which puts him at 153th in the world.

I know averages can be misleading, but surely if he was a slam-dunk top 64 level player his overall average would be higher?
89 his Pro Tour average, I feel he better then some, Not top 32 (Which i never said you did) but he's one of the best nontcs around
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Re: Random Dart Stuff

Post by bristowfan69 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:13 pm

96 first 9 average for the year isn't bad

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Re: Random Dart Stuff

Post by Rogg » Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:50 pm

oche balboa wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:10 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:14 pm
oche balboa wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:06 am Never said he was
I don't see any evidence that Klaasen is top 64 material at present time.

I checked his averages on Darts Orakel. So far in 2023 his overall average is 87.21, which puts him at 153th in the world.

I know averages can be misleading, but surely if he was a slam-dunk top 64 level player his overall average would be higher?
89 his Pro Tour average, I feel he better then some, Not top 32 (Which i never said you did) but he's one of the best nontcs around
You are probably right but Klaasen has only played two PC games this year so his average says nothing. He might play in more events if he could succeed at the enormous challenge of entering the bloody things.

Anyway, I'd say Berry and Landman (and Boulton, hi malt) would be a fair comparison point for Klaasen as cardless lads making a mark.
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Re: Random Dart Stuff

Post by oche balboa » Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:09 pm

Fair Enough i would say the best 10 IMO Nontcs (No real order)



1. Chris Landman
2. Luke Littler
3. Berry Van Peer
4. Jelle Klaasen
5. Andy Baetens
6. Leonard Gates
7. Andy Boulton
8. John Henderson
9. Robert Thornton
10. Christian Kist
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Re: Random Dart Stuff

Post by thegentle » Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:06 pm

oche balboa wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:09 pm Fair Enough i would say the best 10 IMO Nontcs (No real order)




4. Jelle Klaasen
Where are Hankey and Eccl...oh, you mean non-tour card holders!
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