Euan Murray refuses to play on Sunday.....

Post by **Grazer** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:31 pm

even though it's the world cup

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 016776.stm

Not sure I would do this (well, I refuse to work on a Sunday anyway), but I applaud his decision (avoiding the theological discussions about the Sabbath being on a Saturday)

I think he will suffer consequences though

Post by **Knots & crosses** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:32 pm

I don't think he will.

That's his decision, & I think it's to be respected.

Post by **Grazer** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:34 pm

Knots & crosses wrote:I don't think he will.

That's his decision, & I think it's to be respected.

I'm certainly hoping and praying that's the case Knots

Post by **Knots & crosses** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:35 pm

I think it would be lunacy to punish a player who the SRU obviously think is one of the best in the country. & the SRU are quite sensible.

Post by **hang the dj** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:47 pm

What a pile of shit

Priests work every Sunday & you don't hear them complain

Post by **Knots & crosses** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:48 pm

hang the dj wrote:What a pile of shit

Priests work every Sunday & you don't hear them complain

That's because they have a mouthful of altarboy.

Post by **J Y Kelly** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:01 pm

Only because he will miss the Carvery

Fat Jock Peen

Post by **Knots & crosses** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:13 pm

J Y Kelly wrote:Only because he will miss the Carvery

Fat Jock Peen

You only have carvery one day a week?

Paupers.

Post by **Lurgan** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:46 pm

Same shite cost Johnny Jameson a run at the 1982 World Cup

Post by **The Ginge Reaper** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:56 pm

Grazer, quick question - do you ever visit any shop on a Sunday? Even if its just a local corner shop? Ever?

Post by **Sprocket501** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:42 pm

The Ginger Ninja wrote:Grazer, quick question - do you ever visit any shop on a Sunday? Even if its just a local corner shop? Ever?

Or buy a beer at a dart comp?

Post by **The Ginge Reaper** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:43 pm

Sprocket501 wrote:
The Ginger Ninja wrote:Grazer, quick question - do you ever visit any shop on a Sunday? Even if its just a local corner shop? Ever?
Or buy a beer at a dart comp?

Indeed. Strikes me as very hypocritical.

Post by **Sprocket501** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:45 pm

The Ginger Ninja wrote:
Sprocket501 wrote:
The Ginger Ninja wrote:Grazer, quick question - do you ever visit any shop on a Sunday? Even if its just a local corner shop? Ever?
Or buy a beer at a dart comp?
Indeed. Strikes me as very hypocritical.

Just strikes me as being like most religious people -selective about which bits they follow and which they choose to ignore. All very well quoting deep and meaningful observations from theologians but if you ignore simple, clear instructions from Christ himself, it doesn't mean a lot.

Just my observation and not meant to be a flame, Grazer.

Post by **Lurgan** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:47 pm

Its all bollocks

Post by **Noisycrowds** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:48 pm

all religions are like that i imagine

many pick the bits that suit them

Post by **Lurgan** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:56 pm

The fat cunt should be sent home, in fact he should never have been brought if he wasnt going to play, get somebody reliable in who wont let his team mates and country down in this disgracful fashion

Post by **Sprocket501** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:58 pm

Lurgan wrote:The fat cunt should be sent home, in fact he should never have been brought if he wasnt going to play, get somebody reliable in who wont let his team mates and country down in this disgracful fashion

I agree.

Post by **gonk** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:04 pm

he is a professional sportsman and being that the majority of rugby is on a saturday or sunday, the world cup is an exception, i wouldnt have picked him. yes he is probably the best prop scotland have but its your job you get on with it, he could go church in the morning then play. there will he thousands of serving troops in the armed forces working sundays, do they expect to get it off?

Post by **The Ginge Reaper** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:05 pm

gonk wrote:he is a professional sportsman and being that the majority of rugby is on a saturday or sunday, the world cup is an exception, i wouldnt have picked him. yes he is probably the best prop scotland have but its your job you get on with it, he could go church in the morning then play. there will he thousands of serving troops in the armed forces working sundays, do they expect to get it off?

Depends how loose the locals are, I guess.

Post by **Grazer** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:04 pm

Jesus went round doing miracles and work on the sabbath much to the anger of the Pharisees (he also laid into them when the commented that the disciples didn't follow a particular "law") and when he was asked about the law and which commandments are the greatest, he responded with "‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.......and Love your neighbor as yourself" (Matthew 22:37-40) Out of all the commandments of the law, Jesus picked on these 2. Whether I go to church Saturday, Sunday, or a Wednesday lunch time I really don't think matters to God. As a mate of mine has said to me:

.......this can fall into legalism or the belief that our actions win us heaven. It also can lead the unbelieving world to believe that Christianity is about the things you can't do, instead of a life more abundant. (my mate has a way with words)

The apostle Paul had several things to say about it as well.

I never saw an issue with playing darts on a Sunday, it's my way of relaxing and not work. Maybe that needs to change, there's not exactly a passage relating to the playing of darts tournaments. I'll let God guide me as best as I am able to. It is important to a break, have a rest.

Btw - it's not a sin to have a pint, even on a Sunday.

I probably haven't explained that very well but ultimately, being a Christian is not about following rules, regulations and protocol.