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Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:26 am
by Greipel
Cooking with Sanchez wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:19 am Be quiet. I'm happy to have my conversations about it with reasonable adults.
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Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:33 am
by Randall
Captain Hobo wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:15 am
Cooking with Sanchez wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:10 am
Captain Hobo wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:07 am
Cooking with Sanchez wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:53 am
Captain Hobo wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:08 am

How is that relevant?

Everyone who reads this forum knows your opinion on trans women in darts by now. You've spent many more hours posting it than you've ever spent watching women's darts.
+1, we're fighting a losing battle trying to educate. Something the bigots all have in common is the safety of their keyboards. Place is an echo chamber of transphobia.
I'm not trying to educate anyone.

All I want is not to read the same opinion, dressed up as indisputable fact, every day for the last 3 months.
Fair enough. Careful though, you aren't allowed to have a different opinion on this matter without being called a troll. They don't understand nuance.
Honestly my opinion is that Noa and others who transitioned in adulthood shouldn't be allowed to play the Women's Series.

But it's such a minor issue, I don't really care. And I don't want to align with the kind of people who want to make it an issue.
It clearly isn't a minor issue to the ladies involved in the game
They clearly care and this is a thread about it

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:07 pm
by Ross, Bob
I just masturbated reading this thread.

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:08 pm
by Greipel
Ross, Bob wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:07 pm I just masturbated reading this thread.
Weird

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:33 pm
by Cooking with Sanchez
Ross, Bob wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:07 pm I just masturbated reading this thread.
You wank on that?

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:00 pm
by The Thorn
ChrisW wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:35 am There was a time not long ago. When the majority on darts forums said they had zero interest in women's darts. It seems to have quickly reversed.

Sherrock factor?
I would like to think I had a small part in that

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:23 pm
by 1205
The Thorn wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:00 pm
ChrisW wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:35 am There was a time not long ago. When the majority on darts forums said they had zero interest in women's darts. It seems to have quickly reversed.

Sherrock factor?
I would like to think I had a small part in that
I'm sure you would, but there's no chance.

It starts with Ashton, then the PDC giving women spots in the World Championships (and Grand Slam), and then of course Sherrock. But what sealed it really was having both Fattypuff and Thinifer combination so you have two young women darts players with one or both of them throwing good darts. As long as one of them can play well at the Grand Slam or Worlds it'll keep things up. And of course, it would help if the they could meet in the Women's Matchplay and both play their A games.

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:25 pm
by The Thorn
1205 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:23 pm
The Thorn wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:00 pm
ChrisW wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:35 am There was a time not long ago. When the majority on darts forums said they had zero interest in women's darts. It seems to have quickly reversed.

Sherrock factor?
I would like to think I had a small part in that
I'm sure you would, but there's no chance.
A man can dream!

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:02 pm
by Deadshot
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:54 pm
oche balboa wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:14 pm Graham Linehan is a great comedy writer
Indeed he is, but Deadshot's description of events involving him is accurate.
Appreciate that. I really liked Linehan for a long time, but given he can't restrain himself he can't get work anymore and you don't see him on telly anymore. Simple as that. To like Linehan at this point would be to like this absolute husk of a human who tends to single out some of the most vulnerable people he stumbles across and go "Lol this ugly bloke is dressing up as a woman!" to his thousands of followers. It's just nastiness. He isn't engaging in a debate most of the time he's just being a dick. I judge people on how they treat societies most vulnerable and If the chips had fell a little differently Its not difficult to see him aiming his sights at the disabled.

I do remember that when I played darts socially there was a lady there that without fail every single week gave us an absolute pasting, and have always thought that the current skill gap is purely because historically in womens darts the money hasn't been there. Ergo they never played full time, had to maintain jobs and it showed in the standard. Now the PDC has adopted the womens side the prize money has gone up and is reliably available. Women can play full time (or justify dedicating more time) and the standard is climbing. There are plenty of people in the ladies game that can give Noa a beating on their day. and I wouldn't surprise if this turns out to be a purple patch for her if Sherrock can find consistent form

too long didn't read: I don't think being a man is an inherent advantage in darts. I think women have better fine control of their hands and have the possibility of being better players but until recently they couldn't afford the time that men have been able to. Taylor was a cut above the rest because he practiced like a man possessed. Easy to see

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:55 am
by Rogg

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:58 am
by oche balboa
100% spot on

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:20 am
by Rogg
The next controversy is AI where some players have 5 and a half fingers on their throwing hand. An advantage or a disadvantage, do we follow the science or be enslaved by big glove.

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:29 am
by Randall
The format is due to the ladies being far worse so she is correct.

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:34 am
by ChrisW
And rightly so. More darts thrown less legs needed.

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:45 am
by The Thorn
Git gud

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:02 pm
by ChrisW

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:26 pm
by ChrisW

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:15 pm
by Randall
Must be a pretty sour atmosphere at these events

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:58 pm
by Cooking with Sanchez
Come a long way from her being discriminated against at darts tournaments to being the perpetrator.

Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:01 pm
by ChrisW
Cooking with Sanchez wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:58 pm Come a long way from her being discriminated against at darts tournaments to being the perpetrator.
Not a fan of Deta?