Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

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Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Post by oche balboa » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:53 pm

IndyCarDavid wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:34 pm
oche balboa wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:32 pm
IndyCarDavid wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:24 pm Can't see any situation where everyone will be pleased in this scenario. Think the WDF have it more difficult here even though there was criticism of the Women's Matchplay entries too. At least the PDC's main tournament is open to all so they can dodge the situation a bit.
Its a situation which should have been sorted
Think it will be hard to backtrack on the PDC side now, after that Matt Porter interview.
Agreed
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Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

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IndyCarDavid wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:24 pm Can't see any situation where everyone will be pleased in this scenario. Think the WDF have it more difficult here even though there was criticism of the Women's Matchplay entries too. At least the PDC's main tournament is open to all so they can dodge the situation a bit.
The WDF will follow the IOC line, which is no assumption that they have an advantage over female athletes. The IOC then invites individual sports to find the right approach. Which is a cop out. Given how skint the WDF is, I think they'd need to be absolutely certain of the evidence before they would annoy the IOC or risk legal action. PDC have no such concerns as a private promoter, they just don't want to do it.

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Post by Deadshot » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:08 pm

While I don't feel educated enough to state an opinion. Hedman would do well to remember that there was a point in time where some people would not have wanted black people involved in the game. More visibly - the back of the bus, different water fountains etc. Folk that challenged that would have been called something equivalent of "woke" back then.

This issue is nothing to do with being "woke" (a horribly abused term that I despise). There is certainly no consensus in any kind of feminist or progressive circles. As soon as I hear that term alarm bells begin to ring and I start to wonder if I'm listening to somebody who's opinions are formulated off the back of looking at Daily Mail headlines.

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Addicks Fan wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:02 pm
IndyCarDavid wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:24 pm Can't see any situation where everyone will be pleased in this scenario. Think the WDF have it more difficult here even though there was criticism of the Women's Matchplay entries too. At least the PDC's main tournament is open to all so they can dodge the situation a bit.
The WDF will follow the IOC line, which is no assumption that they have an advantage over female athletes. The IOC then invites individual sports to find the right approach. Which is a cop out. Given how skint the WDF is, I think they'd need to be absolutely certain of the evidence before they would annoy the IOC or risk legal action. PDC have no such concerns as a private promoter, they just don't want to do it.
Yeah you are right, the WDF won't want to rock the boat.

Haven't been keeping up with all the IOC decisions. I know the Athletics/Swimming/Cycling boards have been changing their eligibility rules quite regularly recently.

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Post by oche balboa » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:23 pm

Vicky Prium has said she disagrees with Deta Hedman
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Post by Addicks Fan » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:37 pm

Her point is inaccurate, I presume she doesn't know who the current Women's World Champion is and what she turned down? Also her point has no relevance to the WDF, where female (and, apparently, trans people) can't compete with men. Whether or not individuals mind is not the point, it is whether it is fair or not that matters. That is, after all, the whole reason male and female athletes do not compete against each other in most sports.

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Post by daveboygreen » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:46 pm

Answer is pretty simple...As Deta says, The Ladies had to start from the ground and had to build and fight to get tournaments, prize monies etc, Let the Trans players do the same and create their own system to play in...That should surely keep everyone happy :lol:

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Post by Greipel » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:00 pm

IndyCarDavid wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:34 pm
oche balboa wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:32 pm
IndyCarDavid wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:24 pm Can't see any situation where everyone will be pleased in this scenario. Think the WDF have it more difficult here even though there was criticism of the Women's Matchplay entries too. At least the PDC's main tournament is open to all so they can dodge the situation a bit.
Its a situation which should have been sorted
Think it will be hard to backtrack on the PDC side now, after that Matt Porter interview.
Fuck off and die.
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Greipel wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:00 pm
IndyCarDavid wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:34 pm
oche balboa wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:32 pm
IndyCarDavid wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:24 pm Can't see any situation where everyone will be pleased in this scenario. Think the WDF have it more difficult here even though there was criticism of the Women's Matchplay entries too. At least the PDC's main tournament is open to all so they can dodge the situation a bit.
Its a situation which should have been sorted
Think it will be hard to backtrack on the PDC side now, after that Matt Porter interview.
Fuck off and die.
Why you saying that to him for?
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Post by Greipel » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:11 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:08 pm
Greipel wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:00 pm
IndyCarDavid wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:34 pm
oche balboa wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:32 pm
IndyCarDavid wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:24 pm Can't see any situation where everyone will be pleased in this scenario. Think the WDF have it more difficult here even though there was criticism of the Women's Matchplay entries too. At least the PDC's main tournament is open to all so they can dodge the situation a bit.
Its a situation which should have been sorted
Think it will be hard to backtrack on the PDC side now, after that Matt Porter interview.
Fuck off and die.
Why you saying that to him for?
It's Smithy and it has been cleared weeks ago.
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Post by TheMalteseDart » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:13 pm

Greipel wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:11 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:08 pm
Greipel wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:00 pm
IndyCarDavid wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:34 pm
oche balboa wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:32 pm

Its a situation which should have been sorted
Think it will be hard to backtrack on the PDC side now, after that Matt Porter interview.
Fuck off and die.
Why you saying that to him for?
It's Smithy and it has been cleared weeks ago.
Cleared when? Enlighten me
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Post by IndyCarDavid » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:21 pm

Yeah I've been claimed to be like 2 or 3 multiple accounts now :lol: which I guess is impressive in some way.

I can assure all I'm a new member and never registered before

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Post by The Thorn » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:23 pm

Greipel you thick cunt!
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Greipel wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:11 pm It's Smithy and it has been cleared weeks ago.
It's not Smithy you berk.
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IndyCarDavid wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:21 pm Yeah I've been claimed to be like 2 or 3 multiple accounts now :lol: which I guess is impressive in some way.

I can assure all I'm a new member and never registered before
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Post by oche balboa » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:37 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:35 pm

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Post by The Thorn » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:38 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:36 pm
IndyCarDavid wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:21 pm Yeah I've been claimed to be like 2 or 3 multiple accounts now :lol: which I guess is impressive in some way.

I can assure all I'm a new member and never registered before
Sorry that some are so rude, hope you keep posting here more regularly
Agreed Malt but stop slurping

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Re: Deta Hedman speaks out against Trans playing in Womens Darts

Post by IndyCarDavid » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:39 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:36 pm
IndyCarDavid wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:21 pm Yeah I've been claimed to be like 2 or 3 multiple accounts now :lol: which I guess is impressive in some way.

I can assure all I'm a new member and never registered before
Sorry that some are so rude, hope you keep posting here more regularly
Yeah I'll keep posting, no worries. :mrgreen: I just find it funny how I've been accused I think of being a multiple of 2 or 3 different users. I'd maybe understand 1 user but 3 different ones? :lol:

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