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Jose De Sousa

Post by TheMalteseDart » Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:55 pm

I have been watching pretty much every match this worlds and whilst watching De Sousa v Price which was a very flat affair my mind went to why does De Sousa not seem to be as good anymore?

It is common in darts for a player to have a short burst of form and then go off the boil, but De Sousa's high class performances for about 3 years on the floor and tv were no fluke, he hit a record amount of 180s in the Premier League and won the Grand Slam.

De Sousa is someone who has a pretty solid throw, a good stance and nothing weird that would suggest wild inconsistency when compared with someone like Klaasen with the elbow movement, the only obvious thing is he lurches forward a bit on the third dart under pressure. On the face of it therefore his form this year and for a lot of the last year is difficult to explain.

I noticed a lot of the follow through's on release from Jose v Price were quite 'flicky' and lacked conviction. If you go to 17:00 on the video below and watch his 3 darts at 225 you will see what I mean.




I decided to go and watch back highlights of Jose's 2020 grand slam win v Wade. If you go to 5:48 you will see much more of a solid follow through and his throw looks brilliant here. This is just one example but there's plenty of others throughout.




I'm not meaning to post this to slag off De Sousa here, he's still a good player but doesn't feel elite or title threatening anymore. I find how wild some players inconstencies are in darts especially in the lower end of the rankings interesting because it looks like they're throwing exactly the same way as they did when they're in red hot form but if you look a bit deeper into players techniques you may be able to see why something is off with their game.

Why do you think this is? Pressure off a crowd effecting Jose? Complacency in his practice? Natural evolution of a player?
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Post by sennafan24 » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:05 pm

It could be any of those factors.

Age could also be a factor. He is pushing 50. Even Taylor started to decline a bit once he reached that age.

Obviously Wright is a bit of an exception to that rule.
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Post by Dfc180 » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:05 pm

I think the crowd does have a lot to do with it. He won his grand slam behind closed doors, his piss poor counting and general unawareness(going for wrong finishes etc) can't help either. Top 16 player but unlikely to hit the heights again in my opinion

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Post by The iron chicken » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:18 pm

Agree with that, he seems to be snatching at Darts when up against it. Even more so now with crowds back.
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Post by oche balboa » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:32 pm

Players have their thresholds and De Sousa hit his in 2019/20. Sure he is a fine player but he wont win anything again
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Post by The Ginge Reaper » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:36 pm

Anything won behind closed doors in 2020/2021 can likely be discounted anyway tbh.
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Re: Jose De Sousa

Post by oche balboa » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:39 pm

The Ginge Reaper wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:36 pm Anything won behind closed doors in 2020/2021 can likely be discounted anyway tbh.
I know where this is going ;)
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Post by Randall » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:41 pm

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Post by Jimmi » Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:06 pm

The Ginge Reaper wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:36 pm Anything won behind closed doors in 2020/2021 can likely be discounted anyway tbh.
SAFC will be most pleased with this statement.
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Post by The Ginge Reaper » Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:19 pm

Jimmi wrote:
The Ginge Reaper wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:36 pm Anything won behind closed doors in 2020/2021 can likely be discounted anyway tbh.
SAFC will be most pleased with this statement.
He essentially made the same statement the other day tbh Image
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Post by sennafan24 » Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:27 pm

The Ginge Reaper wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:36 pm Anything won behind closed doors in 2020/2021 can likely be discounted anyway tbh.
Especially non-ranking events.
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Re: Jose De Sousa

Post by Safc » Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:28 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:27 pm
The Ginge Reaper wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:36 pm Anything won behind closed doors in 2020/2021 can likely be discounted anyway tbh.
Especially non-ranking events.
And DVDB's Slam and Lice's Worlds :D

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Re: Jose De Sousa

Post by sennafan24 » Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:38 pm

Safc wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:28 pm And DVDB's Slam
"Oh ffs"
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Re: Jose De Sousa

Post by thegentle » Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:45 pm

The Ginge Reaper wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:36 pm Anything won behind closed doors in 2020/2021 can likely be discounted anyway tbh.
False, only titles won in October 2020 and January 2021 can be discounted ;)
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Re: Jose De Sousa

Post by thegentle » Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:46 pm

To answer Malt, Jose has said himself that he had adverse reactions to the vaccine, and in truth, while a very good player, his brief time as one of the very best players in the world was probably never going to last
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Re: Jose De Sousa

Post by Safc » Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:10 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:38 pm
Safc wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:28 pm And DVDB's Slam
"Oh ffs"
:lol: :lol:

In my defence I've had a few.
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Post by tungsten tossers » Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:30 pm

Dfc180 wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:05 pm I think the crowd does have a lot to do with it. He won his grand slam behind closed doors, his piss poor counting and general unawareness(going for wrong finishes etc) can't help either. Top 16 player but unlikely to hit the heights again in my opinion
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Post by sennafan24 » Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:31 pm

thegentle wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:45 pm
The Ginge Reaper wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:36 pm Anything won behind closed doors in 2020/2021 can likely be discounted anyway tbh.
False, only titles won on October 15th 2020 can be discounted ;)
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Post by DeepFriedRat » Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:39 am

thegentle wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:45 pm
The Ginge Reaper wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:36 pm Anything won behind closed doors in 2020/2021 can likely be discounted anyway tbh.
False, only titles won in October 2020 and January 2021 can be discounted ;)
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Re: Jose De Sousa

Post by Jimmi » Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:00 am

Price is a cunt
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