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Randall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:23 pm Smack bang in the middle of the "worst" years of his career as well.

I can't stand the bloke. He's an utter dickhead.

But he's the best darts player ever by some margin.

The Ginge Reaper wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:25 pm

Randall wrote:

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:16 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:13 pm Let's not forget fanny
Though I'd like to think his was tongue in cheek

Fanny is a good lad and doesn't believe most of what he posts.

Fakewade, Meetthefeebles, Rout, Oche, Thorn, Halloween Jack, etc, are sadly genuine.

Sadly fakewade is back but not prepared to post from any of his original accounts

Why does it matter which account he posts from (i assume they were all banned), and why "sadly"? If forums were full of people who just blindly agreed with you they would be very boring places.

Not banned as far as I know
He is also full of shit like so many bdo fans.

Cinnamon Bun wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:23 pm Rands I don't know if you've realised already but DeepFriedRat voted for Hankey.

Cheers
Was lost in the mix

Fordham 3
Gurney 1
Hankey 3
Evison 2
Beaton 1

Randall wrote:
Not banned as far as I know
He is also full of shit like so .any bdo fans.

So its just because you disagree with him, if you want a forum where everyone agrees you should join the one Gaz is now on then.

The Ginge Reaper wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:30 pm

Randall wrote:
Not banned as far as I know
He is also full of shit like so .any bdo fans.

So its just because you disagree with him, if you want a forum where everyone agrees you should join the one Gaz is now on then.

At least it's only him and jack and not the massed ranks of the deluded on df years ago

So in essence you only want to be on a forum where everyone agrees with you? Sounds boring as fuck.

The Ginge Reaper wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:34 pm So in essence you only want to be on a forum where everyone agrees with you?

That's why I've been on every incarnation of every forum yes.

Stop fucking moaning then

The Ginge Reaper wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:38 pm Stop fucking moaning then

Never!!
That just wouldn't be me

The Ginge Reaper wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:25 pm

Randall wrote:

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:16 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:13 pm Let's not forget fanny
Though I'd like to think his was tongue in cheek

Fanny is a good lad and doesn't believe most of what he posts.

Fakewade, Meetthefeebles, Rout, Oche, Thorn, Halloween Jack, etc, are sadly genuine.

Sadly fakewade is back but not prepared to post from any of his original accounts

Why does it matter which account he posts from (i assume they were all banned), and why "sadly"? If forums were full of people who just blindly agreed with you they would be very boring places.

That is one of the best posts of the year.
No names mentioned, but some people on here are extremely self righteous and disregard anybody else’s viewpoint and get way too angry. If anybody gives anybody from the BDO even a whiff of faint praise they are deemed a mushroom a jestful name admittedly but some people need to stop thinking their viewpoint is right and that everybody else’s argument can be flushed down the crapper.

Gurney

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:46 pm That is one of the best posts of the year.
No names mentioned, but some people on here are extremely self righteous and disregard anybody else’s viewpoint and get way too angry. If anybody gives anybody from the BDO even a whiff of faint praise they are deemed a mushroom a jestful name admittedly but some people need to stop thinking their viewpoint is right and that everybody else’s argument can be flushed down the crapper.

Randall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:54 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:53 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:47 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:42 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:39 pm

Hankeys 2000 win is smoke and mirrors.
A meaningless best of 9 proves fuck all and is irrelevant In this discussion
I believe andy was better than him and that's that
I'd rank him above Walton, david, wallace but not Fordham
Dislike has fuck all to do with it.
I think fordham was a better player and that's it

No need to get tetchy Randall, if you think Fordham is better so be it, I just don’t see how that argument can be backed up. I’ll leave it now, we have both made our points.

Given that you allow personal preference to Influence your every post your in a poor position to be pointing fingers

I don’t though, with regard to this poll I try to base it on rational argument.

The other one plays jingle bells

I dont just say this player is better than that player, stamp my feet and say that’s that

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:26 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:23 pm Smack bang in the middle of the "worst" years of his career as well.

I can't stand the bloke. He's an utter dickhead.

But he's the best darts player ever by some margin.

Nobody would disagree with the second sentence. I’m also not too keen on how he has come across as well.

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:56 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:50 pm I’d have to look at the stats as I’ll be honest I can only recall Fordham in the final. Didn’t Ted hit a record. Inner of 180s in 2000 and blasted Baxter away in 46 minutes in the final. Ted also had one of the best throwing actions ever, but that’s another debate.
Surprisingly Ted and Andy only ever played 2 competitive games against each other, winning 1 a piece.

Ted's performance in the semi-final against Mason was very impressive. Beyond that game his performances that year were solid, nothing more.

If he played Taylor 10 times that year, he'd have been swallowed up 8 or 9 times.

That’s opinion not a fact. And before you pipe back, I am not suggesting Ted beats Phil more in 10 games, but I don’t see how anyone can just pluck their finger in the air and come out with a random statistic.
My opinion is that Phil would win the majority, as he most likely would against any player.

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:54 pm

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:26 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:23 pm Smack bang in the middle of the "worst" years of his career as well.

I can't stand the bloke. He's an utter dickhead.

But he's the best darts player ever by some margin.

Nobody would disagree with the second sentence. I’m also not too keen on how he has come across as well.

Quite a few believe that MVG is better than Taylor.

An argument that I have never agreed with.

Of course my original account was banned. As I recall MH asked why people stopped posting on TDF, I answered the question genuinely and he didn't like it. Randall didn't actually press the button, but this was at a time where Gaz was saying the most outrageously ridiculous opinions while Randall and others questioned nothing. We were getting nonsense like Adams wouldn't have been as good as Painter, Mardle, Beaton etc, and endless posts about James Wade gaining £500 on the player above him in the Order of Merit.

To this day people construe "Taylor wouldn't have been a 16 time world champion in a unified field" as "which BDO finalist would have beaten him". It probably wouldn't have been the final where he lost, it would have been the tougher matches in the first few rounds which caught him out. Hankey might have won in 2000, or Fordham in 2004, but they'd probably have needed someone on the level of Mark Webster, Chizzy, 2014 Michael Smith or Mardle to catch him in the first couple of rounds. If you think that doesn't happen a few times between 1994 and 2007, you're deluded.

Obviously there's an anti-BDO slant to this poll, but I think more of a fundamental difference is that I value longevity and consistency far higher than most. There would certainly be no other sport where a player had a six or seven year career at the top, and was regarded better than someone who did it for twenty years, even if the former player was slightly better at their peak.

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:58 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:54 pm

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:26 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:23 pm Smack bang in the middle of the "worst" years of his career as well.

I can't stand the bloke. He's an utter dickhead.

But he's the best darts player ever by some margin.

Nobody would disagree with the second sentence. I’m also not too keen on how he has come across as well.

Quite a few believe that MVG is better than Taylor.

An argument that I have never agreed with.

I don’t agree with that either, but I would MVG at number 2

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:16 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:13 pm Let's not forget fanny
Though I'd like to think his was tongue in cheek

Fanny is a good lad and doesn't believe most of what he posts.

Fakewade, Meetthefeebles, Rout, Oche, Thorn, Halloween Jack, etc, are sadly genuine.

Me? Why? Take me out of this list or I'll explode on your chin!