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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Sprocket501 » Fri May 11, 2012 3:19 pm

Game has ended in a draw.

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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Randall » Fri May 11, 2012 3:36 pm

sure gelfand will be happy enough with that in game one.

neither seemed to have much "presence" at the board.

seem to remember kasparov thrusting his pieces out in front of him.

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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Sprocket501 » Fri May 11, 2012 6:31 pm

Nice result for Gelfand and he struck the first blow in that he was the first to pose a tricky question.

There will be many more draws in this I feel. Will be interesting to see what Gelfand open with as White tomorrow.

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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Sprocket501 » Fri May 11, 2012 10:33 pm

Review

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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Randall » Fri May 11, 2012 10:48 pm

its fascinating stuff.

is the grand master really just the man who can remember the most games? all the permutation to consider is quite remarkable.
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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Sprocket501 » Sat May 12, 2012 10:31 am

Darth Randall wrote:its fascinating stuff.

is the grand master really just the man who can remember the most games? all the permutation to consider is quite remarkable.
I've given up trying to understand how a GM's mind works.

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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Randall » Sat May 12, 2012 12:14 pm

if it is a case of memorising games and knowing what outcomes have happened from each scenario that comes up it is no surprise that deep blue computer beat even kasparov.

does it take a mistake/lapse to lose a game? majority are drawn?
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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Sprocket501 » Sat May 12, 2012 1:43 pm

The loser of a chess game is the one that makes the last mistake.

As far as memorizing games goes, don't be fooled by what Andrew Martin was doing on that video. He was using an online database that shows you identical positions in other games when you set one up on your active board.

I have the same software - so after say eight moves each, I can click a button and a list of all rated games that have ever been played that had that exact position are listed in a new window. I can then play through these and see what each player did.

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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Sprocket501 » Sat May 12, 2012 1:45 pm

Game 2 is heading for an unspectacular draw in which Gelfand has been totally unable to surprise Anand. Vishy has only used 20 odd minutes whereas Boris has used over an hour.

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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Randall » Sat May 12, 2012 1:52 pm

Sprocket501 wrote:The loser of a chess game is the one that makes the last mistake.

As far as memorizing games goes, don't be fooled by what Andrew Martin was doing on that video. He was using an online database that shows you identical positions in other games when you set one up on your active board.

I have the same software - so after say eight moves each, I can click a button and a list of all rated games that have ever been played that had that exact position are listed in a new window. I can then play through these and see what each player did.
i see, i was wondering why mr martin wasnt playing himself with such recollection!
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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Randall » Sun May 13, 2012 11:38 am

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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Randall » Sun May 13, 2012 12:46 pm

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is this the 20/20 version of chess!
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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Sprocket501 » Mon May 14, 2012 2:59 pm

Game Three has been a belter so far.

Slight advantage to Anand - can he convert it to a win?

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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Randall » Mon May 14, 2012 3:19 pm

gelfand has gone from looking totally unconcerned flitting in and out to virtually tearing his hair out it seems.

to the uninformed his two rooks look in a strong position.
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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Sprocket501 » Mon May 14, 2012 3:36 pm

Gelfand can force a draw but he must completely precise. No room for error now.

Absorbing game today - can't wait for the reports later.

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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Sprocket501 » Mon May 14, 2012 3:37 pm

His Rooks are good but the extra pawn for White is critical. Black's King could easily be caught in a mating net too if he's not careful. It's all about being precise now and now forfeiting the advantage afforded to him by move order.

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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Sprocket501 » Mon May 14, 2012 3:38 pm

And it appears that Anand's 34th move, Rook to c7 might be wrong and made the draw easier for Gelfand to achieve - analysing now...

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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Sprocket501 » Mon May 14, 2012 3:39 pm

One Rook each will be swapped off here and single Rook and pawn endgames are 99% drawn.

A great shame.

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Re: 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship

Post by Sprocket501 » Mon May 14, 2012 3:41 pm

Dead drawn now - hand shake imminent. :(

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