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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 32 -27th place poll

Post by Randall » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:54 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:53 pm
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HalloweenJack wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:42 pm
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Now this is something I doubt you will see often, but I’m with Senna here. Fordham was not a better player than Hankey. Hankeys 2000 title was in a field arguable better than the PDC field or at least comparable.
How did Fordham play better darts than Hankey?
You said he was giving Taylor a game? Hankey actually BEAT Taylor at the GSOD
I know you don’t like Hankey, but I think it’s clouding your judgement a bit.
Hankeys 2000 win is smoke and mirrors.
A meaningless best of 9 proves fuck all and is irrelevant In this discussion
I believe andy was better than him and that's that
I'd rank him above Walton, david, wallace but not Fordham
Dislike has fuck all to do with it.
I think fordham was a better player and that's it
No need to get tetchy Randall, if you think Fordham is better so be it, I just don’t see how that argument can be backed up. I’ll leave it now, we have both made our points.

Given that you allow personal preference to Influence your every post your in a poor position to be pointing fingers
I don’t though, with regard to this poll I try to base it on rational argument.
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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 32 -27th place poll

Post by sennafan24 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:56 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:50 pm I’d have to look at the stats as I’ll be honest I can only recall Fordham in the final. Didn’t Ted hit a record. Inner of 180s in 2000 and blasted Baxter away in 46 minutes in the final. Ted also had one of the best throwing actions ever, but that’s another debate.
Surprisingly Ted and Andy only ever played 2 competitive games against each other, winning 1 a piece.
Ted's performance in the semi-final against Mason was very impressive. Beyond that game his performances that year were solid, nothing more.

If he played Taylor 10 times that year, he'd have been swallowed up 8 or 9 times.
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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 32 -27th place poll

Post by sennafan24 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:59 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:54 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:49 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:43 pm John Boy Walton can fuck off btw.
He'd have bean Taylor in 01
Ted would have beat him in 00
Wallace would have beaten him whatever year he won
Same with burnett etc etc

The mushrooms spout bullshit endlessly.
Do people actually really say this stuff though?
Yes, they're not strawman arguments.

- The "Walton would have beaten Taylor in 2001" argument have been around for years. Forum user Meethefeebles has used it a few times.

- Oche has argued in the past that Hankey would have beaten Taylor in 2000.

- Someone argued on Twitter a year or so ago that Taylor was scared to play Wallace in 1997.

- Nicco argued a while back that Burnett was the best player in the world in the mid-1990s.
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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 32 -27th place poll

Post by Randall » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:05 pm

All they had to do was follow barneys example and switch to challenge him
Taylor was hiding in plain sight

Battle of champions 97
The battle of the century 99
The showdown 04
The wdt final 07
Masters of darts final 07
Adam's as the matchplay in 01

Remind me who won all of those?
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Post by DeepFriedRat » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:05 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:59 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:54 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:49 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:43 pm John Boy Walton can fuck off btw.
He'd have bean Taylor in 01
Ted would have beat him in 00
Wallace would have beaten him whatever year he won
Same with burnett etc etc

The mushrooms spout bullshit endlessly.
Do people actually really say this stuff though?
Yes, they're not strawman arguments.

- The "Walton would have beaten Taylor in 2001" argument have been around for years. Forum user Meethefeebles has used it a few times.

- Oche has argued in the past that Hankey would have beaten Taylor in 2000.

- Someone argued on Twitter a year or so ago that Taylor was scared to play Wallace in 1997.

- Nicco argued a while back that Burnett was the best player in the world in the mid-1990s.
This sounds like the same person that I argued on a YouTube comment section recently who described Wayne Warren as a "darts legend" and Jim Williams as "another beast from the BDO". :roll:
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Post by Randall » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:08 pm

Even as late as 2012 idiots were making this arguement for Adam's.
Pretty much why anyone with a brain left df.
Sick of the same bullshit.
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Post by sennafan24 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:09 pm

Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:05 pm All they had to do was follow barneys example and switch to challenge him
Taylor was hiding in plain sight

Battle of champions 97
The battle of the century 99
The showdown 04
The wdt final 07
Masters of darts final 07
Adam's as the matchplay in 01

Remind me who won all of those?
Talk is cheap
Don't forget that Taylor and RVB played 7 times in cross-code events in 2005. Taylor won 6 of those meetings.

Without Taylor's dip in form between the summer of 2006 and the winter of 2007, the Taylor vs RVB rivalry would have been insanely one-sided.
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Post by sennafan24 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:10 pm

Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:08 pm Even as late as 2012 idiots were making this arguement for Adam's.
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Post by Randall » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:12 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:09 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:05 pm All they had to do was follow barneys example and switch to challenge him
Taylor was hiding in plain sight

Battle of champions 97
The battle of the century 99
The showdown 04
The wdt final 07
Masters of darts final 07
Adam's as the matchplay in 01

Remind me who won all of those?
Talk is cheap
Don't forget that Taylor and RVB played 7 times in cross-code events in 2005. Taylor won 6 of those meetings.

Without Taylor's dip in form between the summer of 2006 and the winter of 2007, the Taylor vs RVB rivalry would have been insanely one-sided.
Taylor ruined him In holland in 04
Beat walton and david at the same event even though he was nowhere near his best

The only cogent arguement is gando beating him in 07 which was reversed shortly afterwards in wolves.

All this shit about one of performances at lakeside can just get to fuck.

I've heard idiits trot it out about david ffs.
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Post by sennafan24 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:12 pm

Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:08 pm Even as late as 2012 idiots were making this arguement for Adam's.
Pretty much why anyone with a brain left df.
Sick of the same bullshit.
As late as 2018 many on the BDO fanatics Facebook page were arguing that Duzza was a better champion than Cross.

That argument may seem feasible now, but it wasn't back then. The version of Cross that beat Taylor in the 2018 World Final would have thrashed the version of Duzza that won Lakeside that year.
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Post by Randall » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:13 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:10 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:08 pm Even as late as 2012 idiots were making this arguement for Adam's.
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Post by sennafan24 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:15 pm

Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:12 pm Taylor ruined him In holland in 04
Beat walton and david at the same event even though he was nowhere near his best

The only cogent arguement is gando beating him in 07 which was reversed shortly afterwards in wolves.

All this shit about one of performances at lakeside can just get to fuck.

I've heard idiits trot it out about david ffs.
It was 2005 where Taylor beat Walton, Fordham, David and RVB at the same event.
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Post by sennafan24 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:16 pm

Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:13 pm Let's not forget fanny
Though I'd like to think his was tongue in cheek
Fanny is a good lad and doesn't believe most of what he posts.

Fakewade, Meetthefeebles, Rout, Oche, Thorn, Halloween Jack, etc, are sadly genuine.
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Post by Randall » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:16 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:12 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:08 pm Even as late as 2012 idiots were making this arguement for Adam's.
Pretty much why anyone with a brain left df.
Sick of the same bullshit.
As late as 2018 many on the BDO fanatics Facebook page were arguing that Duzza was a better champion than Cross.

That argument may seem feasible now, but it wasn't back then. The version of Cross that beat Taylor in the 2018 World Final would have thrashed the version of Duzza that won Lakeside that year.
It was very easy at those times as they could make any bullshit claim they wanted knowing wouldn't be put to the test.

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Post by Randall » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:18 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:15 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:12 pm Taylor ruined him In holland in 04
Beat walton and david at the same event even though he was nowhere near his best

The only cogent arguement is gando beating him in 07 which was reversed shortly afterwards in wolves.

All this shit about one of performances at lakeside can just get to fuck.

I've heard idiits trot it out about david ffs.
It was 2005 where Taylor beat Walton, Fordham, David and RVB at the same event.
I'll take that with my memory
I have the whole event on dvd
Taylor was god awful against walton and still won 4-1
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Post by Randall » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:19 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:16 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:13 pm Let's not forget fanny
Though I'd like to think his was tongue in cheek
Fanny is a good lad and doesn't believe most of what he posts.

Fakewade, Meetthefeebles, Rout, Oche, Thorn, Halloween Jack, etc, are sadly genuine.
Sadly fakewade is back but not prepared to post from any of his original accounts
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Post by sennafan24 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:21 pm

Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:18 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:15 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:12 pm Taylor ruined him In holland in 04
Beat walton and david at the same event even though he was nowhere near his best

The only cogent arguement is gando beating him in 07 which was reversed shortly afterwards in wolves.

All this shit about one of performances at lakeside can just get to fuck.

I've heard idiits trot it out about david ffs.
It was 2005 where Taylor beat Walton, Fordham, David and RVB at the same event.
I'll take that with my memory
I have the whole event on dvd
Taylor was god awful against walton and still won 4-1
I stand corrected.

It was 2006 where Taylor beat Walton and Adams.

2005 was where he beat Fordham, Headshaker and David.
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Post by Cinnamon Bun » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:23 pm

Rands I don't know if you've realised already but DeepFriedRat voted for Hankey.
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Post by Randall » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:23 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:21 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:18 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:15 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:12 pm Taylor ruined him In holland in 04
Beat walton and david at the same event even though he was nowhere near his best

The only cogent arguement is gando beating him in 07 which was reversed shortly afterwards in wolves.

All this shit about one of performances at lakeside can just get to fuck.

I've heard idiits trot it out about david ffs.
It was 2005 where Taylor beat Walton, Fordham, David and RVB at the same event.
I'll take that with my memory
I have the whole event on dvd
Taylor was god awful against walton and still won 4-1
I stand corrected.

It was 2006 where Taylor beat Walton and Adams.

2005 was where he beat Fordham, Headshaker and David.
Smack bang in the middle of the "worst" years of his career as well.
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Post by The Ginge Reaper » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:25 pm

Randall wrote:
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:16 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:13 pm Let's not forget fanny
Though I'd like to think his was tongue in cheek
Fanny is a good lad and doesn't believe most of what he posts.

Fakewade, Meetthefeebles, Rout, Oche, Thorn, Halloween Jack, etc, are sadly genuine.
Sadly fakewade is back but not prepared to post from any of his original accounts
Why does it matter which account he posts from (i assume they were all banned), and why "sadly"? If forums were full of people who just blindly agreed with you they would be very boring places.
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