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The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:58 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:55 pm Will be surprised if West loses any more than 2 games in the next 2 nights
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We’re due a bit of Jarred Cole and Wolfie next week :roll:
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Post by Emulsfier » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:06 pm

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Post by The Thorn » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:10 pm

That being said I do rate Read but more on the "serviceable CT player" level
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by TheMalteseDart » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:14 pm

The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:10 pm That being said I do rate Read but more on the "serviceable CT player" level
Was quality in this when he first appeared but has sunken to a mean level of challenge tour last 16 at best kind of player since
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by The Thorn » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:17 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:14 pm
The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:10 pm That being said I do rate Read but more on the "serviceable CT player" level
Was quality in this when he first appeared but has sunken to a mean level of challenge tour last 16 at best kind of player since
45th on the Challenge Tour rankings and 18th in averages
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by The Thorn » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:17 pm

Challenge Tour top 3 averages has both Hurrell and Mitchell begorrah!
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by sennafan24 » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:26 pm

The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:17 pm Challenge Tour top 3 averages has both Hurrell and Mitchell begorrah!
As established, it's a misleading stat due to Mitchell's inconsistency.

13th on the CT is about right for a player of his ability. A solid journeyman, but not quite good enough to play on the main tour.
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by sennafan24 » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:28 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:16 pm One thing that's actually alright about Barrs is he isn't rimming shite players. Never heard Deacon criticise anyone for moronic counting or bad throwing technique
That's probably more of Deacon shortcoming than a strength of Barrs'.
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by The Thorn » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:32 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:26 pm
The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:17 pm Challenge Tour top 3 averages has both Hurrell and Mitchell begorrah!
As established, it's a misleading stat due to Mitchell's inconsistency.

13th on the CT is about right for a player of his ability. A solid journeyman, but not quite good enough to play on the main tour.
13th on CT could well be good enough to play pro tour. Many weaker players will win cards. Now whether he would have a chance keeping his card or would perform poor that is impossible to predict. But I don't think it's a stretch to predict that many players of similar ability will be on the tour. Some will progress their game, others will stagnate or regress. Due to Mitchell's age it's unlikely he would step his game up. But I'd like to see him give it one more go.
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by sennafan24 » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:36 pm

The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:32 pm 13th on CT could well be good enough to play pro tour. Many weaker players will win cards. Now whether he would have a chance keeping his card or would perform poor that is impossible to predict
It's not really.

He's over 50 now and he wasn't that good even in his prime. Best case scenario at his peak was a Deano level career in the PDC and even that may have been a stretch. Now, he'd probably be Ross Montgomery level at the most.
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by The Thorn » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:40 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:36 pm
The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:32 pm 13th on CT could well be good enough to play pro tour. Many weaker players will win cards. Now whether he would have a chance keeping his card or would perform poor that is impossible to predict
It's not really.

He's over 50 now and he wasn't that good even in his prime. Best case scenario at his peak was a Deano level career in the PDC and even that may have been a stretch. Now, he'd probably be Ross Montgomery level at the most.
Funny enough Ross is 67th in the yearly rankings. Judging by that it's not out of the question Mitchell could keep his card if he can be solid and qualify for Ally Pally
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by sennafan24 » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:42 pm

The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:40 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:36 pm
The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:32 pm 13th on CT could well be good enough to play pro tour. Many weaker players will win cards. Now whether he would have a chance keeping his card or would perform poor that is impossible to predict
It's not really.

He's over 50 now and he wasn't that good even in his prime. Best case scenario at his peak was a Deano level career in the PDC and even that may have been a stretch. Now, he'd probably be Ross Montgomery level at the most.
Funny enough Ross is 67th in the yearly rankings. Judging by that it's not out of the question Mitchell could keep his card if he can be solid and qualify for Ally Pally
Mitchell would have to win his card back first. Given he's 1/3 at Q School so far in his career the odds are against him.
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:09 pm
Randall wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 pm Dulla has never faced anything like Taylor in top gear.
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by The Thorn » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:44 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:42 pm
The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:40 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:36 pm
The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:32 pm 13th on CT could well be good enough to play pro tour. Many weaker players will win cards. Now whether he would have a chance keeping his card or would perform poor that is impossible to predict
It's not really.

He's over 50 now and he wasn't that good even in his prime. Best case scenario at his peak was a Deano level career in the PDC and even that may have been a stretch. Now, he'd probably be Ross Montgomery level at the most.
Funny enough Ross is 67th in the yearly rankings. Judging by that it's not out of the question Mitchell could keep his card if he can be solid and qualify for Ally Pally
Mitchell would have to win his card back first. Given he's 1/3 at Q School so far in his career the odds are against him.
Aside from a handful of players everyone is odds against at Q-School
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by sennafan24 » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:45 pm

The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:44 pm Aside from a handful of players everyone is odds against at Q-School
Well done for admitting that Mitchell is a pretty typical player.
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:09 pm
Randall wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 pm Dulla has never faced anything like Taylor in top gear.
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by The Thorn » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:48 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:45 pm
The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:44 pm Aside from a handful of players everyone is odds against at Q-School
Well done for admitting that Mitchell is a pretty typical player.
Let me put it this way. There are around 100 reasonable contenders for 30 spots.

Say Mitchell is in the top 30 he would still be odds against to win a card.
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by sennafan24 » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:52 pm

The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:48 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:45 pm
The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:44 pm Aside from a handful of players everyone is odds against at Q-School
Well done for admitting that Mitchell is a pretty typical player.
Let me put it this way. There are around 100 reasonable contenders for 30 spots.

Say Mitchell is in the top 30 he would still be odds against to win a card.
Again, well done for admitting he's nothing special.
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:09 pm
Randall wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 pm Dulla has never faced anything like Taylor in top gear.
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by The Thorn » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:54 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:52 pm
The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:48 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:45 pm
The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:44 pm Aside from a handful of players everyone is odds against at Q-School
Well done for admitting that Mitchell is a pretty typical player.
Let me put it this way. There are around 100 reasonable contenders for 30 spots.

Say Mitchell is in the top 30 he would still be odds against to win a card.
Again, well done for admitting he's nothing special.
At this point in his career, he's not.

Then again being in the top 16 in the Challenge Tour I think still deserves respect. When you look at the quality of players outside of that, Klaasen, Plaisier, Dom Taylor, Spellman, Pilgrim, Bialecki, Girvan etc. Some of these are probably better than Mitchell as well. He's not going to set the world on fire but no one would be shocked if he won his card back and did alright on tour.
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by The Thorn » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:56 pm

Also keeping your card is a tough cutoff. I don't think finishing outside the top 64 automatically means you are a failure. Possibly up to 70-75th I would give the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by sennafan24 » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:56 pm

The Thorn wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:54 pm At this point in his career, he's not.

Then again being in the top 16 in the Challenge Tour I think still deserves respect. When you look at the quality of players outside of that, Klaasen, Plaisier, Dom Taylor, Spellman, Pilgrim, Bialecki, Girvan etc. Some of these are probably better than Mitchell as well. He's not going to set the world on fire but no one would be shocked if he won his card back and did alright on tour.
I would be.
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:09 pm
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Re: The 2023 Modus Super Series Thread

Post by oche balboa » Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:33 am

Group B - Day 1

Steve West 6
Daniel Lee 6
Patrick Maat 4
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Lee Shewan 2
Dan Read 2
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