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Post by Randall » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:56 pm

The Thorn wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:28 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:17 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:13 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:18 pm The world championship is far to weighted in terms of money/ranking
Absolutely bang on. Take Chizzy for example, he had a bang average year has a good run at the worlds which gives him an inflated ranking in my opinion.
I think the two year money list could be reviewed tbf. I mean Rob Cross is currently the 4th ranked player in the world, yet there are several players below who are clearly playing better yet Cross has a PL place.
Isnt it 5 times the tariff of the next biggest event?
I understand they want to pay as much as they can but in doing so they need to move away from money based oom
You could solve the issue with simply correcting the WC's prize money in the rankings. Let's say only some percentage earned at the Worlds counts. I don't think there's anything wrong with the money based list apart from the WC issue.

The 2 year oom is another fair point, it helps the dull old out of form cunts stay up there. Again you could make a correction saying that only some percentage of the prize money counts from events that were more than a year ago.

I think both of these changes would lead to a fairer system. The PDC probably just doesn't think it's a big enough issue and/or they want to keep it as simple as possible. Overcomplication can be a problem too. Most of the casual fans can barely comprehend the rankings as it is.
Couldn't price effectively take 2 years off now and stay in the top 6?
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Post by The Thorn » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:01 pm

Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:56 pm
The Thorn wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:28 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:17 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:13 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:18 pm The world championship is far to weighted in terms of money/ranking
Absolutely bang on. Take Chizzy for example, he had a bang average year has a good run at the worlds which gives him an inflated ranking in my opinion.
I think the two year money list could be reviewed tbf. I mean Rob Cross is currently the 4th ranked player in the world, yet there are several players below who are clearly playing better yet Cross has a PL place.
Isnt it 5 times the tariff of the next biggest event?
I understand they want to pay as much as they can but in doing so they need to move away from money based oom
You could solve the issue with simply correcting the WC's prize money in the rankings. Let's say only some percentage earned at the Worlds counts. I don't think there's anything wrong with the money based list apart from the WC issue.

The 2 year oom is another fair point, it helps the dull old out of form cunts stay up there. Again you could make a correction saying that only some percentage of the prize money counts from events that were more than a year ago.

I think both of these changes would lead to a fairer system. The PDC probably just doesn't think it's a big enough issue and/or they want to keep it as simple as possible. Overcomplication can be a problem too. Most of the casual fans can barely comprehend the rankings as it is.
Couldn't price effectively take 2 years off now and stay in the top 6?
Pretty much. He'd be about 4th or 5th on world champ money alone
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Re: Share Your Controversial Darts Opinions

Post by Randall » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:06 pm

The Thorn wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:01 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:56 pm
The Thorn wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:28 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:17 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:13 pm

Absolutely bang on. Take Chizzy for example, he had a bang average year has a good run at the worlds which gives him an inflated ranking in my opinion.
I think the two year money list could be reviewed tbf. I mean Rob Cross is currently the 4th ranked player in the world, yet there are several players below who are clearly playing better yet Cross has a PL place.
Isnt it 5 times the tariff of the next biggest event?
I understand they want to pay as much as they can but in doing so they need to move away from money based oom
You could solve the issue with simply correcting the WC's prize money in the rankings. Let's say only some percentage earned at the Worlds counts. I don't think there's anything wrong with the money based list apart from the WC issue.

The 2 year oom is another fair point, it helps the dull old out of form cunts stay up there. Again you could make a correction saying that only some percentage of the prize money counts from events that were more than a year ago.

I think both of these changes would lead to a fairer system. The PDC probably just doesn't think it's a big enough issue and/or they want to keep it as simple as possible. Overcomplication can be a problem too. Most of the casual fans can barely comprehend the rankings as it is.
Couldn't price effectively take 2 years off now and stay in the top 6?
Pretty much. He'd be about 4th or 5th on world champ money alone
There simply has to be something wrong with that.
Award the prize money but change the rankings to a weighted points system for me
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Post by The Thorn » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:10 pm

Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:06 pm
The Thorn wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:01 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:56 pm
The Thorn wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:28 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:17 pm

Isnt it 5 times the tariff of the next biggest event?
I understand they want to pay as much as they can but in doing so they need to move away from money based oom
You could solve the issue with simply correcting the WC's prize money in the rankings. Let's say only some percentage earned at the Worlds counts. I don't think there's anything wrong with the money based list apart from the WC issue.

The 2 year oom is another fair point, it helps the dull old out of form cunts stay up there. Again you could make a correction saying that only some percentage of the prize money counts from events that were more than a year ago.

I think both of these changes would lead to a fairer system. The PDC probably just doesn't think it's a big enough issue and/or they want to keep it as simple as possible. Overcomplication can be a problem too. Most of the casual fans can barely comprehend the rankings as it is.
Couldn't price effectively take 2 years off now and stay in the top 6?
Pretty much. He'd be about 4th or 5th on world champ money alone
There simply has to be something wrong with that.
Award the prize money but change the rankings to a weighted points system for me
As long as it doesn't benefit the floor warriors I wouldn't mind. But I don't think it's necessary either, the current system could work with a few tweaks
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Post by Randall » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:12 pm

The Thorn wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:10 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:06 pm
The Thorn wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:01 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:56 pm
The Thorn wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:28 pm

You could solve the issue with simply correcting the WC's prize money in the rankings. Let's say only some percentage earned at the Worlds counts. I don't think there's anything wrong with the money based list apart from the WC issue.

The 2 year oom is another fair point, it helps the dull old out of form cunts stay up there. Again you could make a correction saying that only some percentage of the prize money counts from events that were more than a year ago.

I think both of these changes would lead to a fairer system. The PDC probably just doesn't think it's a big enough issue and/or they want to keep it as simple as possible. Overcomplication can be a problem too. Most of the casual fans can barely comprehend the rankings as it is.
Couldn't price effectively take 2 years off now and stay in the top 6?
Pretty much. He'd be about 4th or 5th on world champ money alone
There simply has to be something wrong with that.
Award the prize money but change the rankings to a weighted points system for me
As long as it doesn't benefit the floor warriors I wouldn't mind. But I don't think it's necessary either, the current system could work with a few tweaks
The majors would still carry a tariff way above the floor comps
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Post by Mabbsy » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:38 pm

The money doesnt matter, it's all about the trophies

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Post by Randall » Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:13 pm

Mabbsy wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:38 pm The money doesnt matter, it's all about the trophies
I rather suspect they all like the money
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Post by The Thorn » Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:14 pm

Mabbsy wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:38 pm The money doesnt matter, it's all about the trophies
And the averages on them. Or something.
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Post by Dfc180 » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:11 pm

The world's should always carry the most weight ranking wise. You dont get remembered for being a 3 time floor winner or a Shanghai master.

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Post by tungsten tossers » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:27 pm

Dfc180 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:11 pm The world's should always carry the most weight ranking wise. You dont get remembered for being a 3 time floor winner or a Shanghai master.
Smith will :D

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Post by Randall » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:53 pm

tungsten tossers wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:27 pm
Dfc180 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:11 pm The world's should always carry the most weight ranking wise. You dont get remembered for being a 3 time floor winner or a Shanghai master.
Smith will :D
He wont be remembered at all way he is going
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Post by tungsten tossers » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:57 pm

Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:53 pm
tungsten tossers wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:27 pm
Dfc180 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:11 pm The world's should always carry the most weight ranking wise. You dont get remembered for being a 3 time floor winner or a Shanghai master.
Smith will :D
He wont be remembered at all way he is going
He will always be remembered in Shanghai

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Post by The Thorn » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:58 pm

Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:53 pm
tungsten tossers wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:27 pm
Dfc180 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:11 pm The world's should always carry the most weight ranking wise. You dont get remembered for being a 3 time floor winner or a Shanghai master.
Smith will :D
He wont be remembered at all way he is going
Could get into the record books if he keeps putting on weight
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Post by Randall » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:59 pm

The Thorn wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:58 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:53 pm
tungsten tossers wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:27 pm
Dfc180 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:11 pm The world's should always carry the most weight ranking wise. You dont get remembered for being a 3 time floor winner or a Shanghai master.
Smith will :D
He wont be remembered at all way he is going
Could get into the record books if he keeps putting on weight
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Post by sennafan24 » Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:16 am

Rogg wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:37 am
oche balboa wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:39 am Duzza in the top 10 has upset folk

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Post by Randall » Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:34 am

Oche only says such things for effect
He can't be that stupid
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Post by Rogg » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:07 am

I wasn't around but assume everyone moaned on and on about the change to the tie-break rule at the Worlds?

Cutting straight to a sudden death leg was actually a huge improvement and I hope they continue with it post-covid.
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Post by Randall » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:13 am

Rogg wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:07 am I wasn't around but assume everyone moaned on and on about the change to the tie-break rule at the Worlds?

Cutting straight to a sudden death leg was actually a huge improvement and I hope they continue with it post-covid.
It was referenced but I don't think anyone got overly vexed
I don't really remember
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Post by TheMalteseDart » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:16 pm

I prefer how it was before without the sudden death leg, but wouldn’t lose sleep either way
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Post by tungsten tossers » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:40 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:16 pm I prefer how it was before without the sudden death leg, but wouldn’t lose sleep either way
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Spot on

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