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Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:33 pm
by Rogg
Rogg wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:09 am
KP in the fun seat. Assuming he'll be at the PDPA Jobbifier tomorrow.
Burton DeWitt @bsd987
Daryl Gurney's second Premier Ranking title from two such lifetime finals—joining Colin Lloyd and Gary Anderson as the only players to win their first two PDC Premier Ranking finals—lifts him above Gary Anderson in the post-Ally Pally Order of Merit.
Bump for the tour card race. Devon could keep his card if he beats White.
An uncomfortable hour for Painter begins.
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:21 pm
by Fiss Plaps
Rogg wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:33 pm
Rogg wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:09 am
KP in the fun seat. Assuming he'll be at the PDPA Jobbifier tomorrow.
Burton DeWitt @bsd987
Daryl Gurney's second Premier Ranking title from two such lifetime finals—joining Colin Lloyd and Gary Anderson as the only players to win their first two PDC Premier Ranking finals—lifts him above Gary Anderson in the post-Ally Pally Order of Merit.
Bump for the tour card race. Devon could keep his card if he beats White.
An uncomfortable hour for Painter begins.
Tough luck Kev.
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:47 am
by Zeyes
Keep in mind we still don't have real confirmation that Cadby will actually be allowed back into the UK anytime soon. 65th place could be enough to retain a card.
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:19 am
by Captain Hobo
Wouldn't be the first time Kev has benefitted from an Aussie with Visa issues. How's your luck?
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:19 pm
by Zeyes
Quick race update as of the end of round 1. Players listed starting from 58th place. Below the cutoff line only those who matter, i.e. who've either lost their tour card now because of their worlds result, or who are still in the tournament:
55,750 Clemens* (R64+)
55,500 Mansell (R96)
54,500 Cadby* (DNS)
53,250 Nicholson (R96)
52,250 Jacques (DNQ)
49,500 de Graaf (R96)
48,000 Aspinall* (R64+)
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47,750 Joyce* (R64+)
46,750 Painter (DNQ)
45,500 Rodriguez (R64+)
43,000 Petersen (R64+)
41,250 Barnard^ (R64+)
37,000 Labanauskas^ (R32+)
36,750 Humphries* (R64+)
33,750 Burton (R96)
22,500 Evetts^ (R64+)
21,250 Kirk (R96)
18,000 Larsson^ (R64+)
15,000 Asada^ (R64+)
15,000 Long^ (R64+)
15,000 Malicdem^ (R64+)
8,500 Lam (R96)
Card lost for Stephen Burton, Aden Kirk and Royden Lam, and presumably now also for Painter after Aspinall's win today has pushed him down to 66th.
Jeffrey de Graaf now in quite a bit of trouble.
* are players on two-year cards, ^ are players without a 2018 tour card.
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:17 am
by thegentle
Zeyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:19 pm
Quick race update as of the end of round 1. Players listed starting from 58th place. Below the cutoff line only those who matter, i.e. who've either lost their tour card now because of their worlds result, or who are still in the tournament:
55,750 Clemens* (R64+)
55,500 Mansell (R96)
54,500 Cadby* (DNS)
53,250 Nicholson (R96)
52,250 Jacques (DNQ)
49,500 de Graaf (R96)
48,000 Aspinall* (R64+)
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47,750 Joyce* (R64+)
46,750
Painter (DNQ)
45,500 Rodriguez (R64+)
43,000 Petersen (R64+)
41,250 Barnard^ (R64+)
37,000 Labanauskas^ (R32+)
36,750 Humphries* (R64+)
33,750
Burton (R96)
22,500 Evetts^ (R64+)
21,250
Kirk (R96)
18,000 Larsson^ (R64+)
15,000 Asada^ (R64+)
15,000 Long^ (R64+)
15,000 Malicdem^ (R64+)
8,500
Lam (R96)
Card lost for Stephen Burton, Aden Kirk and Royden Lam, and presumably now also for Painter after Aspinall's win today has pushed him down to 66th.
Jeffrey de Graaf now in quite a bit of trouble.
* are players on two-year cards, ^ are players without a 2018 tour card.
De Graaf in deep doo doo, one win for anyone above Labanauskas and he's fucked. Jacques would need two to overtake him to lose his (although at least for his sake Barnard would have to win two games), Nicho three (with Petersen as well needing more two wins to overtake him). RJR, Barnard and maybe even Humphries and Petersen are the big dangermen, they definitely have the easiest paths to the top 64
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:22 am
by thegentle
Would be disappointed for de Graaf and Nicholson, they've had decent years despite their first round disasters. Wouldn't be sorry to see Jacques lose his tour card, great achievement for him to make it last year, but that looks more and more like a fluke now, certainly not as promising as the other two. I guess everyone above that is pretty much safe for next year
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:00 pm
by thegentle
Humphries just needs one more win now, which would shoot him right up above Clemens. Nervy times, but at least Barnard/Harris are out of the equation for the stragglers
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:00 am
by Zeyes
Update after Thursday's action...Barnard, Evetts and Rodriguez out of the race, although all three will be getting tour cards through the Challenge and Development Tours instead.
Jeffrey de Graaf living very dangerously since Ryan Joyce's second round victory on Wednesday, and even moreso now after Humphries also moved within one win of the top 64:
57,750 Joyce* (R32+)
55,750 Clemens* (R64+)
55,500 Mansell (R96)
54,500 Cadby* (DNS)
53,250 Nicholson (R96)
52,250 Jacques (DNQ)
49,500 de Graaf (R96)
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48,000 Aspinall* (R64+)
46,750 Humphries* (R32+)
43,000 Petersen (R64+)
37,000 Labanauskas^ (R32+)
15,000 Long^ (R64+)
15,000 Malicdem^ (R64+)
Petersen and Aspinall in action in the evening session today. Petersen's the last player still in the tournament who is holding a potentially expiring tour card.
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:42 am
by thegentle
Hope they increase the prize fund for other events next year, now I like Petersen, but it's strange how he's looked dead and buried all year yet is now potentially one game away from saving his tour card
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:48 am
by thegentle
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:52 am
by thegentle
Literally on a knife edge for Giraffe. Think Jacques will just about survive (though I wouldn't bank on it), Nicholson and Mansell should be fine
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:19 am
by The Ginge Reaper
All these scenarios are a nonsense as it assumes all players in them would accept a Tour Card anyway. Is Jim Long really going to accept one?
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:48 am
by Gidra
The Ginge Reaper wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:19 am
All these scenarios are a nonsense as it assumes all players in them would accept a Tour Card anyway. Is Jim Long really going to accept one?
Sure he will, as I see him as a world champion and pl regular
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:09 pm
by cannibal
Lol,
Seriously, Long would probably take the card and not use it or rarely use it. PDC tour cards are viewed here as a badge of legitimacy, or a trophy, or a silver swimming certificate. They come back to north America with that as proof of something they accomplished in their darting career. Like an appearance at ally pally they are just happy to be there, just having the card is enough.
When Smith got his card he admitted that part of the whole thing was proving he could get one. If sponsors came out of the woodwork to pay for his travel he would show up. He was part of the group of simpeltons that thought getting the card was going to being sponsors like flies to honey.
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:12 pm
by cannibal
And this is why I laugh at the American dart scene because they don't understand the card is just the beginning of the road to hard work not an end in itself
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:35 pm
by thegentle
The Ginge Reaper wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:19 am
All these scenarios are a nonsense as it assumes all players in them would accept a Tour Card anyway. Is Jim Long really going to accept one?
Moot point now, but I think we may see more non-Europeans try their hand at getting a tour card. I don't know the situation, but the money and publicity is far higher now than when Smith had a tour card (or when Reyes won his with a mere £18k), so perhaps it would be easier to attract sponsors? Harris, Murschell and Smith did Q-School last year, Asada and Kumar want to (I'm sure Asada will get the sponsorship given the publicity he's received of late), and Malicdem they said is basically a full-time pro so may be tempted?
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:47 pm
by Zeyes
I would take Asada's comment from the interview a few weeks ago with a grain of salt. The guy has been putting up a Taylor-esque phase of dominance over Japanese darts for the last three years or so, and is probably earning better than PDC top 32 players from soft-tip prize money alone, let alone what he might be getting in sponsorship as the top domestic player in addition. His steel-tip game has arguably now progressed to a level where he'd be competitive on the Pro Tour, too, but financially he's got almost no reason to try.
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:49 pm
by M H
The Tour Card gains in value year on year. No entry fees and automatic entry into the Worlds.
Any player with the slightest amount of ambition should be going for this
Re: Tour Card Race for 2019
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:32 pm
by The Thorn
Zeyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:47 pm
I would take Asada's comment from the interview a few weeks ago with a grain of salt. The guy has been putting up a Taylor-esque phase of dominance over Japanese darts for the last three years or so, and is probably earning better than PDC top 32 players from soft-tip prize money alone, let alone what he might be getting in sponsorship as the top domestic player in addition. His steel-tip game has arguably now progressed to a level where he'd be competitive on the Pro Tour, too, but financially he's got almost no reason to try.
Are big money soft tip tournaments really that frequent? Couldn't he just play the Dartslive World stages and play on the pro tour at the same time? Wouldn't he be able to play the majority of the tour events?
