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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by tungsten tossers » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:36 pm

Safc wrote:
The Thorn wrote:Norris wouldn't qualify on the pro tour ranking if he weren't top 16.
Klaasen's downfall is notable as well.
Klaasen however only has uk open money of 2 year ago to defend now as he has done nowt at matchplay, grand prix and gsod in last 2 year if he has any sort of run he will be touching top10 again come the worlds
Klaasen is showing ranking of 23 in 2017 and 2018 money up o Uk open so his earnings must have been about 120k for 2016

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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by Safc » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:27 pm

tungsten tossers wrote:
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The Thorn wrote:Norris wouldn't qualify on the pro tour ranking if he weren't top 16.
Klaasen's downfall is notable as well.
Klaasen however only has uk open money of 2 year ago to defend now as he has done nowt at matchplay, grand prix and gsod in last 2 year if he has any sort of run he will be touching top10 again come the worlds
Klaasen is showing ranking of 23 in 2017 and 2018 money up o Uk open so his earnings must have been about 120k for 2016

http://www.dartsdatabase.co.uk/Rankings.aspx
Correct but if you look 17k is the uk open and 25k is worlds the rest is first round defeats at matchplay and grand prix which is another 11k so this year after his uk open money comes off on monday he sort of has a free role till the worlds cause he is only defending first round money at matchplay and grand prix and nothing at gsod of cause he has to remain solid on the floor and euro tour aswell which he tends to do if you look at last 4 years

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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by tungsten tossers » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:05 pm

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tungsten tossers wrote:
Safc wrote:
The Thorn wrote:Norris wouldn't qualify on the pro tour ranking if he weren't top 16.
Klaasen's downfall is notable as well.
Klaasen however only has uk open money of 2 year ago to defend now as he has done nowt at matchplay, grand prix and gsod in last 2 year if he has any sort of run he will be touching top10 again come the worlds
Klaasen is showing ranking of 23 in 2017 and 2018 money up o Uk open so his earnings must have been about 120k for 2016

http://www.dartsdatabase.co.uk/Rankings.aspx
Correct but if you look 17k is the uk open and 25k is worlds the rest is first round defeats at matchplay and grand prix which is another 11k so this year after his uk open money comes off on monday he sort of has a free role till the worlds cause he is only defending first round money at matchplay and grand prix and nothing at gsod of cause he has to remain solid on the floor and euro tour aswell which he tends to do if you look at last 4 years

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true... he has got a £10k German championship and a 15k euro championship but he should be able to claw that back during the year

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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by Zeyes » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:49 pm

Safc wrote:Correct but if you look 17k is the uk open and 25k is worlds the rest is first round defeats at matchplay and grand prix which is another 11k so this year after his uk open money comes off on monday he sort of has a free role till the worlds cause he is only defending first round money at matchplay and grand prix and nothing at gsod of cause he has to remain solid on the floor and euro tour aswell which he tends to do if you look at last 4 years
Your claim makes no sense at all. Klaasen is defending much bigger TV results in the next 10 months (from 2016) than he will be defending afterwards (from 2017). Other players in the same area of the OOM are defending as little or even less on TV than he does, so the fact that Klaasen went out first round in the Matchplay and Grand Prix in 2016 is meaningless on its own - not to mention that he's not even all that certain to qualify for them this year.

And needing to play what's an average season for him on the floor is hardly a freeroll, given how cutthroat the tour is nowadays. (Not to mention the continental qualifiers for the Euro Tour will likely be much tougher this year, thanks to free entry.) He HAS to pick up some money in floor tournaments soonish or things will go south for him quickly.

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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by The Thorn » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:01 pm

Also Klaasen is anything but solid on the floor recently. He's seeded on the ET but going downhill so might lose his seeding in a few months.

Used to love watching Klaasen but to be honest in the last year or so it's been tedious. Not sure if it's the injury that fucked him up but darts lost a serious talent I think. Of course it could be simply down to his throwing action being inconsistent
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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by tungsten tossers » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:33 pm

The Thorn wrote:Also Klaasen is anything but solid on the floor recently. He's seeded on the ET but going downhill so might lose his seeding in a few months.

Used to love watching Klaasen but to be honest in the last year or so it's been tedious. Not sure if it's the injury that fucked him up but darts lost a serious talent I think. Of course it could be simply down to his throwing action being inconsistent
yeah, its weird as he is a great talent but he is another one of those players who looks like he is not enjoying playing at the moment. I hope he can get his game back as he is great to watch when playing well

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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by Safc » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:40 pm

Zeyes wrote:
Safc wrote:Correct but if you look 17k is the uk open and 25k is worlds the rest is first round defeats at matchplay and grand prix which is another 11k so this year after his uk open money comes off on monday he sort of has a free role till the worlds cause he is only defending first round money at matchplay and grand prix and nothing at gsod of cause he has to remain solid on the floor and euro tour aswell which he tends to do if you look at last 4 years
Your claim makes no sense at all. Klaasen is defending much bigger TV results in the next 10 months (from 2016) than he will be defending afterwards (from 2017). Other players in the same area of the OOM are defending as little or even less on TV than he does, so the fact that Klaasen went out first round in the Matchplay and Grand Prix in 2016 is meaningless on its own - not to mention that he's not even all that certain to qualify for them this year.

And needing to play what's an average season for him on the floor is hardly a freeroll, given how cutthroat the tour is nowadays. (Not to mention the continental qualifiers for the Euro Tour will likely be much tougher this year, thanks to free entry.) He HAS to pick up some money in floor tournaments soonish or things will go south for him quickly.
Fuck off are you blind look at his 2016 money also last year he was very good on euro tour
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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by The Thorn » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:10 am

Safc wrote:
Zeyes wrote:
Safc wrote:Correct but if you look 17k is the uk open and 25k is worlds the rest is first round defeats at matchplay and grand prix which is another 11k so this year after his uk open money comes off on monday he sort of has a free role till the worlds cause he is only defending first round money at matchplay and grand prix and nothing at gsod of cause he has to remain solid on the floor and euro tour aswell which he tends to do if you look at last 4 years
Your claim makes no sense at all. Klaasen is defending much bigger TV results in the next 10 months (from 2016) than he will be defending afterwards (from 2017). Other players in the same area of the OOM are defending as little or even less on TV than he does, so the fact that Klaasen went out first round in the Matchplay and Grand Prix in 2016 is meaningless on its own - not to mention that he's not even all that certain to qualify for them this year.

And needing to play what's an average season for him on the floor is hardly a freeroll, given how cutthroat the tour is nowadays. (Not to mention the continental qualifiers for the Euro Tour will likely be much tougher this year, thanks to free entry.) He HAS to pick up some money in floor tournaments soonish or things will go south for him quickly.
Fuck off are you blind look at his 2016 money also last year he was very good on euro tour
Klaasen's ranking money:
2016: £176,750
2017: £126,250
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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by Safc » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:42 pm

The Thorn wrote:
Safc wrote:
Zeyes wrote:
Safc wrote:Correct but if you look 17k is the uk open and 25k is worlds the rest is first round defeats at matchplay and grand prix which is another 11k so this year after his uk open money comes off on monday he sort of has a free role till the worlds cause he is only defending first round money at matchplay and grand prix and nothing at gsod of cause he has to remain solid on the floor and euro tour aswell which he tends to do if you look at last 4 years
Your claim makes no sense at all. Klaasen is defending much bigger TV results in the next 10 months (from 2016) than he will be defending afterwards (from 2017). Other players in the same area of the OOM are defending as little or even less on TV than he does, so the fact that Klaasen went out first round in the Matchplay and Grand Prix in 2016 is meaningless on its own - not to mention that he's not even all that certain to qualify for them this year.

And needing to play what's an average season for him on the floor is hardly a freeroll, given how cutthroat the tour is nowadays. (Not to mention the continental qualifiers for the Euro Tour will likely be much tougher this year, thanks to free entry.) He HAS to pick up some money in floor tournaments soonish or things will go south for him quickly.
Fuck off are you blind look at his 2016 money also last year he was very good on euro tour
Klaasen's ranking money:
2016: £176,750
2017: £126,250
Aye mate im not disputing his money or you its zeyes annoying me what i am trying to say is after uk open if he gets to second round or further at matchplay and grand prix and even gets to the gsod that he is obviously going to not fall in ranking and most likely climb his problem happens when he defends his euro championship and worlds money at the end of the year sorry thorn and tungstentossers i wasn't having a go at you
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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by Zeyes » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:45 pm

So basically if he plays better than he has for the past 12 months he's not going to drop in the ranking. Brilliant insight, thanks for sharing that with us in such eloquent fashion.

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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by Zeyes » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:58 pm

For those interested in actual facts, Klaasen is defending three semifinals and one final on the European Tour over the next 9 weeks - that alone is £28,000 or nearly half his Pro Tour total. He'll barely be seeded for Players Championships afterwards, let alone for ET events, if he doesn't put together some strong weekends soon.

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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by Safc » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:11 pm

Zeyes wrote:For those interested in actual facts, Klaasen is defending three semifinals and one final on the European Tour over the next 9 weeks - that alone is £28,000 or nearly half his Pro Tour total. He'll barely be seeded for Players Championships afterwards, let alone for ET events, if he doesn't put together some strong weekends soon.
Sorry for the misunderstanding i didn't realize the pro and euro tout was 1 year rolling and the majors are 2 my bad zeyes
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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by The Ginge Reaper » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:13 pm

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Zeyes wrote:For those interested in actual facts, Klaasen is defending three semifinals and one final on the European Tour over the next 9 weeks - that alone is £28,000 or nearly half his Pro Tour total. He'll barely be seeded for Players Championships afterwards, let alone for ET events, if he doesn't put together some strong weekends soon.
Wrong he isn't defending that till next year he is defending 2016 money which is 14k from monday till the matchplay
He's on about the Euro/Pro Tour merit list which decides the seedings for the Euro and Pro tour, that one is a one year list.

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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by Zeyes » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:13 pm

Safc wrote:
Zeyes wrote:For those interested in actual facts, Klaasen is defending three semifinals and one final on the European Tour over the next 9 weeks - that alone is £28,000 or nearly half his Pro Tour total. He'll barely be seeded for Players Championships afterwards, let alone for ET events, if he doesn't put together some strong weekends soon.
Wrong he isn't defending that till next year he is defending 2016 money which is 14k from monday till the matchplay
Wow, you don't even know how the Pro Tour OOM works? The mind boggles. Go have oche explain it to you or something before you make an even bigger fool of yourself than you already have.

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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by Safc » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:15 pm

Sorry honestly didn't realize euro and pro tour was 1 year rolling and majors were 2 year i just thougt everything was 2
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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

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Safc wrote:Sorry honestly didn't realize euro and pro tour was 1 year rolling and majors were 2 year i just thougt everything was 2
Majors aren't 2 year for all the spots either :D
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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by Safc » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:23 pm

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Safc wrote:Sorry honestly didn't realize euro and pro tour was 1 year rolling and majors were 2 year i just thougt everything was 2
Majors aren't 2 year for all the spots either :D
Cheres ginge so does money won at uk open,matchplay,grand prix and gsod count on order of merit for 1 or 2 years as klaasens world money off 2016 only came off after 2018 same with thorntons grand prix money
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Re: 2018 PDC World Matchplay (July 21-29)

Post by Safc » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:24 pm

Safc wrote:
The Ginge Reaper wrote:
Safc wrote:Sorry honestly didn't realize euro and pro tour was 1 year rolling and majors were 2 year i just thougt everything was 2
Majors aren't 2 year for all the spots either :D
Cheres ginge so does money won at uk open,matchplay,grand prix and gsod count on order of merit for 1 or 2 years as klaasens world money off 2016 only came off after 2018 same with thorntons grand prix money won in 2015 came off 2017[
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Post by The Ginge Reaper » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:24 pm

It counts on the main OoM for 2 years bit unless he is in the top 16 he won't get in major events that way.
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Safc wrote:
The Ginge Reaper wrote:
Safc wrote:Sorry honestly didn't realize euro and pro tour was 1 year rolling and majors were 2 year i just thougt everything was 2
Majors aren't 2 year for all the spots either :D
Cheres ginge so does money won at uk open,matchplay,grand prix and gsod count on order of merit for 1 or 2 years as klaasens world money off 2016 only came off after 2018 same with thorntons grand prix money
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