The BDO's demand to Shownights

[Justin Credible]

The board have a policy that they are not prepared to sanction a tournament without a guarantee that they will at least break even. On your proposal above, looking at the comparable variable figures from last years’ event, it is highly likely the BDO will suffer a loss and therefore the BDO cannot accept this proposal or sanction the tournament on this basis. The board of the BDO will be prepared to enter into a commercial Agreement and sanction the tournament on the following basis:

1. All outstanding monies from the 2016 event are paid in full before signature of the Agreement in relation to the 2017 event.
2. An on signature payment of a Sanction Fee of £10,000 that entitles Shownights to the allocation of the BDO ranking points for this tournament, and the right to use the BDO logo, name and association to promote the tournament.
3. On signature of the Agreement £18,000 to be lodged with the BDO to cover the prize money.
4. 90 days after signature of this Agreement £12,180 lodged with the BDO to cover tournament operational expenses. To include:
a. - Hire of vans
b. - Fuel
c. - Loaders
d. - Driver Loader
e. - Dartboard Stands
f. - Dartboards
g. - Stage set-up
h. - Off stage officials
i. - Trophies
j. - Driver loaders Hotels
k. - Loaders hotels
l. - Off stage officials hotels
m. - Meals
n. - Travelling
5. For the avoidance of doubt Shownights are responsible for paying direct for:
a. Stage officials remuneration (stage officials must be approved by the BDO)
b. Richard Ashdown remuneration
c. All costs associated with streaming the event
d. The Stage Official’s hotel and travelling costs
e. Richard Ashdown’s hotel and travelling costs
6. The BDO to retain all revenue from player entry fees, All player entry fees will be taken direct by the BDO.
7. Shownights to retain any public admission fee revenue.
8. Shownights to retain all revenue derived from the provision of food and beverage
9. Should Shownights breach the contract by cancelling the event the BDO will retain the £10,000 Sanction Fee as show nights will have received. the benefit of the Sanction Fee Rights ( BDO Ranking Points, and the BDO logo, Name and association in promoting the event).
10. Should Shownights breach the Agreement by cancelling the event before the £12,180 outlined in 4 above is paid, then the BDO retain the £18,000 prize money to run this or a replacement tournament. Plus Shownights agree to pay any reasonable additional expenses the BDO have to incur to operate this or the replacement tournament including the sum of £12,180 for operating expenses and any additional expenses as a direct result of Shownights cancelation
11. If Shownights cancel after the £12,180 outlined in 4 above is paid the BDO will retain this figure as a contribution to the operating expenses of the BBO in directly organising this or a replacement tournament. Shownights will be responsible for any reasonable additional coast incurred by the BDO in staging this or a replacement tournament incurred as a direct result of Shownights cancelation.
12. If on Shownights cancellation before the payment of £12,180 in 4 above is paid and it is not possible for the BDO to organise this or a replacement tournament, then the BDO will retain the Sanction Fee of £10,000 as Shownights will have already derived the benefit of the rights granted for the Sanction Fee. The BDO will also retain £12,180 from the prize money as a cancellation fee and return £5820 to Shownights.
13. If on Shownights Cancellation after the payment of £12,180 outlined in 4 above is paid and it is not possible for the BDO to organise this or a replacement tournament then the BDO will retain the Sanction Fee of £10,000 as Shownights will have already derived the benefit of the rights granted for the Sanction Fee. The BDO will also retain £12,180 from the payment outlined in 4 as a cancellation fee and return the £18,000 prize money to Shownights.

This offer will remain open for 14 days. If Agreement is not reached and signed within 14 days, then on the 23rd of January 2017 you must stop promoting the tournament, remove all promotional and advertising material for the tournament and not hold yourself out that the tournament has received either the backing or BDO ranking points from the BDO.

Wayne, clearly the Lakeside is a very busy time and we had several things we had to clear with the board before finalising the above offer. The board do want this event to go ahead with Shownights, but it must be on a viable commercial basis.

Please come back to us if you accept the above commercial terms and we will draft a contract accordingly.

Kind regards

Stephen





Stephen Holland

[Lister of Smeg]

So Basically they want some free money and lots of it. Unbelievable.

[Robert Ross]

Who wrote this, PT13? Fell asleep while reading it.

[Justin Credible]

what wayne posted on fanatics

[wintergardener]

Who are these "off stage officials" who need hotels? The board?

[Lister of Smeg]

Who are these "off stage officials" who need hotels? The board?

Selecta family etc etc.

[Justin Credible]

free loading cunts

[The Ginge Reaper]

Who are these "off stage officials" who need hotels? The board?

People manning the control desk etc.

Asking them to pay the 2016 losses as well. As for the £10k demand, we knee about that anyway but it's still cheeky.

[Justin Credible]

"bdo gonna grow"

[ITG]

New day, a new farce.

[The Ginge Reaper]

New day, a new farce.

This all happened in January, was a thread on here.

For some reason he has only decided to publish the email now, fuck knows why.

[Justin Credible]

kick the bdo while they are down....oh wait...they are always down

[ITG]

Is Sue going fact finding to Vegas this year?

[Zeyes]

I didn't quite believe it at the time, but it's there in writing: The BDO / Sportotal expected Shownights to pay for basically everything including the prize money, while not allowing them to retain any revenues except from ticket sales (har, har) and food and drink sales? What the hell kind of idiotic business proposal is that? That's not how it works with any other tournament promoter that gets BDO ranking points, I reckon.

[Justin Credible]

I didn't quite believe it at the time, but it's there in writing: The BDO / Sportotal expected Shownights to pay for basically everything including the prize money, while not allowing them to retain any revenues except from ticket sales (har, har) and food and drink sales? What the hell kind of idiotic business proposal is that? That's not how it works with any other tournament promoter that gets BDO ranking points, I reckon.

and the bdo wonder why no one wants anything to do with these cunts

[The Shank]

I didn't quite believe it at the time, but it's there in writing: The BDO / Sportotal expected Shownights to pay for basically everything including the prize money, while not allowing them to retain any revenues except from ticket sales (har, har) and food and drink sales? What the hell kind of idiotic business proposal is that? That's not how it works with any other tournament promoter that gets BDO ranking points, I reckon.

and the bdo wonder why no one wants anything to do with these cunts

They're the only ones wondering.

[StevieBoy]

It's Barry Hearns fault!

[Justin Credible]

I didn't quite believe it at the time, but it's there in writing: The BDO / Sportotal expected Shownights to pay for basically everything including the prize money, while not allowing them to retain any revenues except from ticket sales (har, har) and food and drink sales? What the hell kind of idiotic business proposal is that? That's not how it works with any other tournament promoter that gets BDO ranking points, I reckon.

and the bdo wonder why no one wants anything to do with these cunts

They're the only ones wondering.

[The Ginge Reaper]

I didn't quite believe it at the time, but it's there in writing: The BDO / Sportotal expected Shownights to pay for basically everything including the prize money, while not allowing them to retain any revenues except from ticket sales (har, har) and food and drink sales? What the hell kind of idiotic business proposal is that? That's not how it works with any other tournament promoter that gets BDO ranking points, I reckon.

The difference is this was an event with "BDO" in the title.

Had they ran it on their own, none of those demands would have been made.

[Zeyes]

I didn't quite believe it at the time, but it's there in writing: The BDO / Sportotal expected Shownights to pay for basically everything including the prize money, while not allowing them to retain any revenues except from ticket sales (har, har) and food and drink sales? What the hell kind of idiotic business proposal is that? That's not how it works with any other tournament promoter that gets BDO ranking points, I reckon.

The difference is this was an event with "BDO" in the title.

Had they ran it on their own, none of those demands would have been made.

Which leads to two questions:

1) Whose idea was it to brand the first edition in 2016 as a "BDO event"? Given that the BDO brass apparently begged Dobinson not to cancel it back then, I get the impression that it was them who were pushing for it. (Particularly ironic as nobody really even seemed to notice at the time that this was supposed to be a BDO-name brand event, rather than a standard privately promoted open with ranking points...)

2) Was Stephen Holland / BDO Events stupid enough to sign a similar "you shoulder all of the risks, we pick up most of the revenues" contract with the BDO for the original World Trophy in 2014, and he's simply on the other side now?