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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by The Thorn » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:08 am

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cannibal wrote:not a fan of the change, just seems that they are making a special rule to try to fix "something". If the something is creating a more competitive OOM race then go to points or stop making the payout structure so top heavy.
All they're trying to fix is that seeded ET players were getting an almost-free pass into the European Championship.
What if they only discounted the money from the European Champs OoM?
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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by cannibal » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:40 pm

Probably a better solution.
Has anyone worked out the oom's from last year with the new rule? I find it hard to believe that anyone of the top 16 didn't win a second match in the ET. I think Thornton had like 6k that was all from losing his first match (second round). But he had a couple wins in the second round.
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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by Justin Credible » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:42 pm

I dont think anyone lost all 11 or 12 first round matches ( whatever it was last year), was merely highlighting how it would be possible to lose all and qualify.
Thornton and jenkins must have been the worst from memory.
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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by The Thorn » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:55 pm

Thornton won his first match 3 times on the ET last year.
Whitlock had the same but he wasn't seeded in the firs 2 events.
Others performed better, or stopped being seeds like Dolan.
TJ actually won his first game 6 times, made a semi and a quarter so he wasn't that bad.
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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by Justin Credible » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:59 pm

surprised at that, thought jenkins was woeful.
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Post by Surreys finest » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:27 am

The Thorn wrote:Thornton won his first match 3 times on the ET last year.
Whitlock had the same but he wasn't seeded in the firs 2 events.
Others performed better, or stopped being seeds like Dolan.
TJ actually won his first game 6 times, made a semi and a quarter so he wasn't that bad.

Terry Jenkins was getting piss easy first round draws all year. It was so bad that I thought Terry Jenkins had turned into Terry Jacklin and fixed the draws. Even with the new rules there is potential for cloggers to get lucky unfortunately.
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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by skweezit » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:52 pm

looks like a number of players that have history of entering the home nation
qualifiers for Germany, where they live and work and play, will no longer be eligible to do that,
pdc rule change - residency is no longer acceptable for entry in to events, the player must be a legal citizen of country.

a couple examples - dragutin Horvath (Croatia)
Maik Langendorf (Austria)

wonder if it will affect world series qualifiers. (Australia, new Zealand)

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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by Justin Credible » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:50 pm

skweezit wrote:looks like a number of players that have history of entering the home nation
qualifiers for Germany, where they live and work and play, will no longer be eligible to do that,

pdc rule change - residency is no longer acceptable for entry in to events, the player must be a legal citizen of country.

a couple examples - dragutin Horvath (Croatia)
Maik Langendorf (Austria)

wonder if it will affect world series qualifiers. (Australia, new Zealand)

thats a fucking disgrace,
This is all done yet again to give preferential treatment to that nazi jobber cunt hopp
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Re: European Tour rule changes

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skweezit wrote:looks like a number of players that have history of entering the home nation
qualifiers for Germany, where they live and work and play, will no longer be eligible to do that,
pdc rule change - residency is no longer acceptable for entry in to events, the player must be a legal citizen of country.

a couple examples - dragutin Horvath (Croatia)
Maik Langendorf (Austria)

wonder if it will affect world series qualifiers. (Australia, new Zealand)
Also Tony West right? He used to do European qualifiers.
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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by The Thorn » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:40 pm

Justin Credible wrote:
skweezit wrote:looks like a number of players that have history of entering the home nation
qualifiers for Germany, where they live and work and play, will no longer be eligible to do that,

pdc rule change - residency is no longer acceptable for entry in to events, the player must be a legal citizen of country.

a couple examples - dragutin Horvath (Croatia)
Maik Langendorf (Austria)

wonder if it will affect world series qualifiers. (Australia, new Zealand)

thats a fucking disgrace,
This is all done yet again to give preferential treatment to that nazi jobber cunt hopp
Think you take this too far.
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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by Justin Credible » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:47 pm

The Thorn wrote:
Justin Credible wrote:
skweezit wrote:looks like a number of players that have history of entering the home nation
qualifiers for Germany, where they live and work and play, will no longer be eligible to do that,

pdc rule change - residency is no longer acceptable for entry in to events, the player must be a legal citizen of country.

a couple examples - dragutin Horvath (Croatia)
Maik Langendorf (Austria)

wonder if it will affect world series qualifiers. (Australia, new Zealand)

thats a fucking disgrace,
This is all done yet again to give preferential treatment to that nazi jobber cunt hopp
Think you take this too far.
I know you are scottish and therefore below the average intelligence level, and time is precious as it must be nearly bed time for you, but give me one single reason how its not preferential treatment.
Just one.
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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by The Thorn » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:51 pm

Justin Credible wrote:
The Thorn wrote:
Justin Credible wrote:
skweezit wrote:looks like a number of players that have history of entering the home nation
qualifiers for Germany, where they live and work and play, will no longer be eligible to do that,

pdc rule change - residency is no longer acceptable for entry in to events, the player must be a legal citizen of country.

a couple examples - dragutin Horvath (Croatia)
Maik Langendorf (Austria)

wonder if it will affect world series qualifiers. (Australia, new Zealand)

thats a fucking disgrace,
This is all done yet again to give preferential treatment to that nazi jobber cunt hopp
Think you take this too far.
I know you are scottish and therefore below the average intelligence level, and time is precious as it must be nearly bed time for you, but give me one single reason how its not preferential treatment.
Just one.
You implied the PDC does this to favour Hopp. I think it's got nothing to do with it. This is not only a rule for the home nation qualifiers but the other ET qualifiers as well.

It's simply fixing a loophole in the rules, where players could enter qualifiers of a region despite not being citizens.
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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by Justin Credible » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:53 pm

how the fuck can you be so retarded to claim "its got nothing to do with it" when the vast majority of these events which the rule applies to are all played in Germany.

who benefits the most einstein ?
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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by The Thorn » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:58 pm

Justin Credible wrote:how the fuck can you be so retarded to claim "its got nothing to do with it" when the vast majority of these events which the rule applies to are all played in Germany.

who benefits the most einstein ?
A player entering the qualifier of another country is wrong - thinks the PDC

So they change the rule.

Hopp benefits from this, but it's not favoritism. They didn't do it to help him. They simply made the change because they thought it was right this way.

You claim the PDC brought this rule to favour Hopp, and I disagree.
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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by Justin Credible » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:01 pm

oh...ok

so the bulk of comps being held in Germany is no advantage to hopp.
and the german qualifiers now blocking people who might stop hopp is also just a coincidence.....at the same time the PDC are looking for a german player to make it to appease the interest in the PDC

all just a huge coincidence no doubt
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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by The Thorn » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:05 pm

Most ETs are held in Germany because they can draw in a big crowd, so make money.
The German players get advantage in the ETs because the crowd loves and supports them.

Hopp will never be a top player. The PDC is not that thick, they are perfectly aware of this.
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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by skweezit » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:45 pm

see that with the new rules, the 4 European spots on the pro tour for the world championships have been eliminated.
wait! that's how Maxx Hopp got in last year!
those underhanded pdc bastards must really have it in for Hopp. :D

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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by Justin Credible » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:50 pm

Hopp as a german with the "luck" of so many comps in germany has an advantage over the other non german europeans who are now fighting for even less places, while he can rape the euro tour with no worries about qualification in the german home qualifiers.

In the end the pdc and the world will see he is an over rated player and will eventually be just another euro jobber before fading into obscurity
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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by skweezit » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:17 am

actually the non-german europeans have 2 additional spots to fight for in the ET qualifiers.
roll with the changes.

here's another interesting one.
the UK based associates who finished below 32nd place in q-school can now flood into the east/south ET qualifiers.
once or twice (not sure) , before they get hit with the big money membership fee.

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Re: European Tour rule changes

Post by The Thorn » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:31 pm

skweezit wrote:see that with the new rules, the 4 European spots on the pro tour for the world championships have been eliminated.
wait! that's how Maxx Hopp got in last year!
those underhanded pdc bastards must really have it in for Hopp. :D
Good point :D

In fairness, I can't see how this is a good change. For example, this is how Hopp and Dimitri qualified for the Worlds last time, and both played well.

With the whole tour being based in the UK, I think it's probably fair that the European lads got extra spots in the World Champs.
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