Where do you rank MVG now on the all time greatest list?
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No way MVG will ever win as many titles as Deta.
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Re: Where do you rank MVG now on the all time greatest list?
At the risk of sounding like Randall, you have to remember that MVG's best averages were set post-2015 when the boards were changed.tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:01 pmI think peak MvG is on a par with peak Philth when it comes to ability with high averages etc but he is nowhere near Philth, and never will be, in regards of achievements..sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:35 pm Van Goblin is nowhere near Taylor in terms of either career achievements or ability.
PT13 explains why that was such a factor here - viewtopic.php?p=1192420#p1192405
Even with the board changes, Van Gobin has never produced a tournament like Taylor did at the 2009 European Championship - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Euro ... ip_(darts)
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Is the correct answersennafan24 wrote:Van Goblin is nowhere near Taylor in terms of either career achievements or ability.
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And the correct spelling for once
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Another thing Taylor has in his favour is longevity.
He was the outright best player in the world consistently from the early 1990s up until the early 2010s.
He was the outright best player in the world consistently from the early 1990s up until the early 2010s.
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fandarts wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:24 am probably will go down as the greatest (even though he never won at lakeside) will probably end up with close to ten world titles if he goes till he is 40, in this climate that would be outstanding, taylor was beating reg harding and women players for some of his early tinpot wdc titles
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Over 5 years ago ffs:
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Peak Philth vs peak Baldfish is a close game, but I think Philth would prevail at the end. So, +1tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:01 pmI think peak MvG is on a par with peak Philth when it comes to ability with high averages etc but he is nowhere near Philth, and never will be, in regards of achievements..sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:35 pm Van Goblin is nowhere near Taylor in terms of either career achievements or ability.
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Taylor was matching mvgs numbers on boards with trebles and doubles half the size
Ludicrous to say they are the same
Ludicrous to say they are the same
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On and on we go. Well played Greipel.
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Drawing merely from eye-test, I get the impression that Peak Taylor was more consistent than Peak MVG.Gidra wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:41 pmPeak Philth vs peak Baldfish is a close game, but I think Philth would prevail at the end. So, +1tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:01 pmI think peak MvG is on a par with peak Philth when it comes to ability with high averages etc but he is nowhere near Philth, and never will be, in regards of achievements..sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:35 pm Van Goblin is nowhere near Taylor in terms of either career achievements or ability.
Thus, under a Matchplay format, I think Peak Taylor wins quite convincingly.
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I don't think anyone is disputing that peak Philth is and will always be the greatest ever dart player....sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:47 pmDrawing merely from eye-test, I get the impression that Peak Taylor was more consistent than Peak MVG. Thus, under a Matchplay format, I think Peak Taylor wins quite convincingly.Gidra wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:41 pmPeak Philth vs peak Baldfish is a close game, but I think Philth would prevail at the end. So, +1tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:01 pmI think peak MvG is on a par with peak Philth when it comes to ability with high averages etc but he is nowhere near Philth, and never will be, in regards of achievements..sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:35 pm Van Goblin is nowhere near Taylor in terms of either career achievements or ability.
But I don't think that peak Philth would wipe the floor with peak MvG day in and day out
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MVG would win battles, but not the war, if that makes sense.tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:51 pm I don't think anyone is disputing that peak Philth is and will always be the greatest ever dart player.... But I don't think that peak Philth would wipe the floor with peak MvG day in and day out
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totally agreesennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:54 pmMVG would win battles, but not the war, if that makes sense.tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:51 pm I don't think anyone is disputing that peak Philth is and will always be the greatest ever dart player.... But I don't think that peak Philth would wipe the floor with peak MvG day in and day out
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That's very balanced senna. Fair.
Now let's see what the author of The Ladybird Book of Big Doug makes of it. If he mentions Michael's tear ducts you owe me.
Now let's see what the author of The Ladybird Book of Big Doug makes of it. If he mentions Michael's tear ducts you owe me.
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