2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Cooking with Sanchez » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:28 pm

I think Wade would swap his other titles for one World Championship.
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Rogg » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:34 pm

He may do. I don't get the impression that it burns into him though.

2 Grands Prix, 2 UK Opens, a Matchplay, Premier League and Masters won over the course of 7 years is a more considerable achievement than winning one other tournament once and nothing else, in my opinion, even if that other tournament is The Big One.
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Justin Credible » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:42 pm

Cooking with Sanchez wrote:I think Wade would swap his other titles for one World Championship.
all his floor comps...yes
floor comps and euro titles....yes
the unibet masters yes,
The CLoD yes,
his PL win ...yes...its only a non ranking exbo
matchplay... maybe yes
his 2 uk opens for one world title...no chance...2 genuine majors
his 2 grand prix titles...no chance see above

wade has won 5 proper majors, and 3 secondary titles , the PL, unibet masters and CLoD

What person in their right mind would swop all that for one title ?
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Rogg » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:56 pm

It's an interesting question. Someone should ask Wade. I'd say he's proud of his haul. The answer he'd give today may be different from what he'd say at the end of his career.
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Chizzyfan » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:58 pm

Indeed, it is intriguing. I suppose it depends on the player. MVG wanted the world title so bad last year. The rest were "bin" worthy. I think that is a bit foolish but then that might be my bias against MVG kicking in.
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Justin Credible » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:20 pm

Rogg wrote:It's an interesting question. Someone should ask Wade. I'd say he's proud of his haul. The answer he'd give today may be different from what he'd say at the end of his career.

how many people have won more than 5 majors in the pdc ?

by major I mean proper ranking majors.

Worlds
Grand Prix
Matchplay
UK open

grand slam and PL were big comps but non ranking so do not count
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Rogg » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:20 pm

Chizzyfan wrote:Indeed, it is intriguing. I suppose it depends on the player. MVG wanted the world title so bad last year. The rest were "bin" worthy. I think that is a bit foolish but then that might be my bias against MVG kicking in.
He is a psycho though :lol: he'd have cracked had he actually won nothing between world championships.

I wonder if Harrington would swap his successfully retained Matchplay title for 1 world title. Think he won the BDO Masters as well?

Sometimes other tournaments prove harder to win than a particular world championship anyway. Look at the Matchplay that Taylor won in 2002 when he did the 9-darter v Mason then beat Lowe about 17-15 and Part 18-16 on consecutive nights. He must easily rank that alongside or above some of his world titles. I've always thought of the Matchplay as effectively being a legplay version of the world championship anyway.
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Justin Credible » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:23 pm

Rogg wrote:
Chizzyfan wrote:Indeed, it is intriguing. I suppose it depends on the player. MVG wanted the world title so bad last year. The rest were "bin" worthy. I think that is a bit foolish but then that might be my bias against MVG kicking in.
He is a psycho though :lol: he'd have cracked had he actually won nothing between world championships.

I wonder if Harrington would swap his successfully retained Matchplay title for 1 world title. Think he won the BDO Masters as well?

Sometimes other tournaments prove harder to win than a particular world championship anyway. Look at the Matchplay that Taylor won in 2002 when he did the 9-darter v Mason then beat Lowe about 17-15 and Part 18-16 on consecutive nights. He must easily rank that alongside or above some of his world titles. I've always thought of the Matchplay as effectively being a legplay version of the world championship anyway.

harrington might swap one matchplay for a world title, but 2 matchplays ?

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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Rogg » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:26 pm

Justin Credible wrote:
Rogg wrote:It's an interesting question. Someone should ask Wade. I'd say he's proud of his haul. The answer he'd give today may be different from what he'd say at the end of his career.

how many people have won more than 5 majors in the pdc ?

by major I mean proper ranking majors.

Worlds
Grand Prix
Matchplay
UK open

grand slam and PL were big comps but non ranking so do not count
PT13 will have the answer!

Of those titles you list, off the top of my head: Taylor about a thousand. MvG has won 7. Wade 5. Lewis 3. Barney 3. Part 2. Anderson 2. Thornton 2. Harrington 2. Lloyd 2.
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Justin Credible » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:29 pm

I know up to around 2 years ago wade was the second most successful pdc player after Taylor in majors
also in total titles
and was I think 3rd in floor comps (semi finals onwards)

MVG has obviously surpassed that since.
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Rogg » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:30 pm

If you add the ranked Las Vegas Desert Classic to your list you can add one more for Part and Barney.
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Justin Credible » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:34 pm

Rogg wrote:If you add the ranked Las Vegas Desert Classic to your list you can add one more for Part and Barney.
another of those comps that was vastly over rated.
Was a holiday for the boys and whilst ranked was certainly no major
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Randall » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:41 pm

darts1000 wrote:MVG! What an amazing player. Second best player in the history of the sport. He has won 16 majors/big tv titles.

Take a look at his performance timeline (chapter 9)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_v ... e_timeline
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by PT13 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:54 pm

Rogg wrote:
PT13 wrote:
Rogg wrote:He is one PDC world title behind Part, Lewis and Anderson - some people will say that's the end of the debate right there - but he has probably won more major PDC titles than those three combined. Is that true? Someone add it up.
He has, yes.

John Part PDC TV majors
2003 World Championship
2006 Las Vegas Desert Classic
2008 World Championship

Adrian Lewis PDC TV majors
2011 World Championship
2012 World Championship
2013 European Championship
2014 UK Open

Gary Anderson PDC TV majors
2007 International Darts League (contained both BDO and PDC players)
2007 World Darts Trophy (contained both BDO and PDC players)
2011 Premier League
2014 Players Championship Finals
2015 World Championship
2015 Premier League
2016 World Championship

Michael van Gerwen PDC TV majors
2012 World Grand Prix
2013 Premier League
2013 Players Championship Finals
2014 World Championship
2014 World Grand Prix
2014 European Championship
2015 Masters
2015 UK Open
2015 World Matchplay
2015 European Championship
2015 Grand Slam of Darts
2015 Players Championship Finals
2016 Masters
2016 UK Open
2016 Premier League
2016 World Matchplay
Good work. Not a bad haul by MvG.

2 years and 4 months since the 'great' Lewis won a TV title (ignoring the world series)... Barney, Wade and Thornton have all won one since Lewis last did.
Let me also put Phil Taylor's major TV titles haul down since the split, to provide some more context:

1995 World Championship
1995 World Matchplay
1996 World Championship
1997 World Championship
1997 News of the World
1997 World Matchplay
1998 World Championship
1998 World Grand Prix
1999 World Championship
1999 World Grand Prix
2000 World Championship
2000 World Matchplay
2000 World Grand Prix
2001 World Championship
2001 World Matchplay
2002 World Championship
2002 Las Vegas Desert Classic
2002 World Matchplay
2002 World Grand Prix
2003 UK Open
2003 World Matchplay
2003 World Grand Prix
2004 World Championship
2004 Las Vegas Desert Classic
2004 World Matchplay
2005 World Championship
2005 Masters of Darts
2005 Premier League
2005 UK Open
2005 Las Vegas Desert Classic
2005 World Grand Prix
2006 World Championship
2006 Premier League
2006 World Series of Darts
2006 World Matchplay
2006 World Darts Trophy
2006 World Grand Prix
2007 Premier League
2007 US Open
2007 South African Masters
2007 Grand Slam of Darts
2008 US Open
2008 Premier League
2008 Las Vegas Desert Classic
2008 World Matchplay
2008 South African Masters
2008 World Grand Prix
2008 European Championship
2008 Grand Slam of Darts
2009 World Championship
2009 Players Championship Finals
2009 UK Open
2009 Las Vegas Desert Classic
2009 World Matchplay
2009 South African Masters
2009 World Grand Prix
2009 Grand Slam of Darts
2010 World Championship
2010 Premier League
2010 UK Open
2010 World Matchplay
2010 European Championship
2011 (February) Players Championship Finals
2011 RTL7 Masters
2011 World Matchplay
2011 European Championship
2011 World Grand Prix
2011 Grand Slam of Darts
2012 Premier League
2012 World Matchplay
2012 Players Championship Finals
2013 World Championship
2013 UK Open
2013 World Matchplay
2013 World Grand Prix
2013 Masters
2013 Grand Slam of Darts
2014 World Matchplay
2014 Grand Slam of Darts

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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Jobber » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:55 pm

That sure wasn't one of Taylor's mates up there playing him last night. :o

That shit was the perfect game. The attitude, the finishing (%66 ffs), picking off the t19 with utter ease, not buckling under that "Taylor Wonderland" song and that 13 dart leg with two treble-less visits was the icing on the cake.

He's going to leave the rest of his era a mile behind on the trophy count imo.

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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Justin Credible » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:55 pm

and though he has now won nothing for 2 years, one member says he is in his prime
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Cooking with Sanchez » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:55 pm

The South Africa Masters is not a major!
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Jobber » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:55 pm

Oh, and let us never speak of Adrian 'The History Maker' Lewis again. A down right embarrassment to the game.

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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Justin Credible » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:56 pm

Jobber wrote:Oh, and let us never speak of Adrian 'The History Maker' Lewis again. A down right embarrassment to the game.

quick thoughts on the other semi final between taylor and ando ?
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Lister of Smeg » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:00 pm

My favourite moment in the game was his mental breakdown. :D

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