2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by darts1000 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:58 am

MVG! What an amazing player. Second best player in the history of the sport. He has won 16 majors/big tv titles.

Take a look at his performance timeline (chapter 9)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_v ... e_timeline
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Post by The Ginge Reaper » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:00 am

darts1000 wrote:MVG! What an amazing player. Second best player in the history of the sport.
Behave!!!!!
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Post by Justin Credible » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:06 pm

The Ginge Reaper wrote:
darts1000 wrote:MVG! What an amazing player. Second best player in the history of the sport.
Behave!!!!!

he is dutch...expect mental illness and wild claims
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Post by An Cat Dubh » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:42 pm

darts1000 wrote:Take a look at his performance timeline (chapter 9)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_v ... e_timeline
Looking at that he's only started really dominating the TV events in the last 18 months which explains why he still has only one World title.

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Post by Justin Credible » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:44 pm

and why the hunchbacked cunt is not within a mile of ever being better than bristow, let alone taylor
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Post by Pieter » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:50 pm

How can people refuse he is the second best in the sport? I COULD even think he is the best player ever in darts. Although, he will never be the greatest ever.

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Post by Chizzyfan » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:03 pm

Dave Chisnall is the greatest of all time. #ridiculousclaimsday. Although, that one will be true by the end of his career.
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Post by Justin Credible » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:11 pm

Dartsjournalist wrote:How can people refuse he is the second best in the sport? I COULD even think he is the best player ever in darts. Although, he will never be the greatest ever.

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Post by Rogg » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:30 pm

Dartsjournalist wrote:How can people refuse he is the second best in the sport? I COULD even think he is the best player ever in darts. Although, he will never be the greatest ever.
You could argue that MvG is already the second best player in PDC history.

He is one PDC world title behind Part, Lewis and Anderson - some people will say that's the end of the debate right there - but he has probably won more major PDC titles than those three combined. Is that true? Someone add it up.

Part, Lewis, Anderson (and Barney) have never won the Matchplay or the Grand Prix - MvG has two of each, and two UK Opens (Barney has 2, Lewis 1; Part and Anderson none). Not forgetting Wade who has 2 Grands Prix, 2 UK Opens and 1 Matchplay but no world titles.
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Post by The Ginge Reaper » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:39 pm

Rogg wrote:
Dartsjournalist wrote:How can people refuse he is the second best in the sport? I COULD even think he is the best player ever in darts. Although, he will never be the greatest ever.
You could argue that MvG is already the second best player in PDC history.
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Well yes but to argue he is the second greatest player ever, in the history of all darts, is fucking moronic.
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Post by M H » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:40 pm

If I were asked to sum up this thread in one sentence I very much doubt I could. Good work all involved and onward to the next event
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Post by Rogg » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:50 pm

The Ginge Reaper wrote:
Rogg wrote:
Dartsjournalist wrote:How can people refuse he is the second best in the sport? I COULD even think he is the best player ever in darts. Although, he will never be the greatest ever.
You could argue that MvG is already the second best player in PDC history.
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Well yes but to argue he is the second greatest player ever, in the history of all darts, is fucking moronic.
People have short memories or no memories, get emotionally attached and make knee-jerk reactions. Bristow doesn't help.
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by PT13 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:02 pm

Rogg wrote:He is one PDC world title behind Part, Lewis and Anderson - some people will say that's the end of the debate right there - but he has probably won more major PDC titles than those three combined. Is that true? Someone add it up.
He has, yes.

John Part PDC TV majors
2003 World Championship
2006 Las Vegas Desert Classic
2008 World Championship

Adrian Lewis PDC TV majors
2011 World Championship
2012 World Championship
2013 European Championship
2014 UK Open

Gary Anderson PDC TV majors
2007 International Darts League (contained both BDO and PDC players)
2007 World Darts Trophy (contained both BDO and PDC players)
2011 Premier League
2014 Players Championship Finals
2015 World Championship
2015 Premier League
2016 World Championship

Michael van Gerwen PDC TV majors
2012 World Grand Prix
2013 Premier League
2013 Players Championship Finals
2014 World Championship
2014 World Grand Prix
2014 European Championship
2015 Masters
2015 UK Open
2015 World Matchplay
2015 European Championship
2015 Grand Slam of Darts
2015 Players Championship Finals
2016 Masters
2016 UK Open
2016 Premier League
2016 World Matchplay

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Post by Justin Credible » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:04 pm

fuck part....even with his 2 world titles

I think Wade was a better player than part
as was bob anderson,
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Rogg » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:51 pm

PT13 wrote:
Rogg wrote:He is one PDC world title behind Part, Lewis and Anderson - some people will say that's the end of the debate right there - but he has probably won more major PDC titles than those three combined. Is that true? Someone add it up.
He has, yes.

John Part PDC TV majors
2003 World Championship
2006 Las Vegas Desert Classic
2008 World Championship

Adrian Lewis PDC TV majors
2011 World Championship
2012 World Championship
2013 European Championship
2014 UK Open

Gary Anderson PDC TV majors
2007 International Darts League (contained both BDO and PDC players)
2007 World Darts Trophy (contained both BDO and PDC players)
2011 Premier League
2014 Players Championship Finals
2015 World Championship
2015 Premier League
2016 World Championship

Michael van Gerwen PDC TV majors
2012 World Grand Prix
2013 Premier League
2013 Players Championship Finals
2014 World Championship
2014 World Grand Prix
2014 European Championship
2015 Masters
2015 UK Open
2015 World Matchplay
2015 European Championship
2015 Grand Slam of Darts
2015 Players Championship Finals
2016 Masters
2016 UK Open
2016 Premier League
2016 World Matchplay
Good work. Not a bad haul by MvG.

2 years and 4 months since the 'great' Lewis won a TV title (ignoring the world series)... Barney, Wade and Thornton have all won one since Lewis last did.
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Cooking with Sanchez » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:06 pm

One world title doesn't get him in the top five of all time.
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Rogg » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:11 pm

Fuck me, just saw the van Gerwen checkout stat. Is this a record for a Matchplay final winner? 18/27. I thought his doubling would be his weakness last night, nope...

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Post by Rogg » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:14 pm

Cooking with Sanchez wrote:One world title doesn't get him in the top five of all time.
Would you put him above anyone who won two or three world titles?
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Cooking with Sanchez » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:16 pm

Difficult to do that imo. Even Part, whose second PDC title was pretty fortunate in that he beat a shite Shepherd in the final, beat Taylor in the final when in his prime. Not many others can say that.
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Re: 2016 PDC World Matchplay Thread

Post by Rogg » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:27 pm

Cooking with Sanchez wrote:Difficult to do that imo. Even Part, whose second PDC title was pretty fortunate in that he beat a shite Shepherd in the final, beat Taylor in the final when in his prime. Not many others can say that.
Not to talk down Part's win at all - the 2003 final is my favourite match of all-time - but I wouldn't say Taylor was anywhere near his prime that particular week. His aura was in its prime though, no denying that.

It's fair enough if people want to go almost purely by world titles, but I personally don't do that. Kirk Shepherd, Peter Wright, Andy Hamilton and Simon Whitlock have all been relatively close to being world champion. Had one of them pulled it off, I'd not be able to put any of them above Wade. Other big titles also count for a lot.
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