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Post by ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pm

Who came close to televised 9ers before Lowe did the first one?

And who came close during the rest of the 80s and also during the 90s?

Could we get a list of all 7 and 8 perfect darts televised up to 2010?

As it's become so common now, I think that after 2010 would be less interesting.

I know that Jocky made 7 perfect darts and 8 perfect darts at the World Champs. I think both were before Lowe hit his, weren't they?

And I know Priestley hit 7 perfect darts in one of the earlier WDC World Finals.

Did Bristow ever get close? It's the one thing that Lowe managed to get over him, balancing out their statuses somewhat. Well, I think so.

I started watching darts in the mid-90s, as a kid, so all the stuff from the 80s I've only seen by replay.

I recall Merv missed double 18 for a 9er at Lakeside. I recall quite vividly watching it live, although I've never heard anyone, especially Merv, mention it again. Can't find a video of it.

Seems that more players went the double 18 routes back in the day than the double 12 route, but switched to the double 12 route because most failed by going the double 18 route. e.g. Barney missed treble 15 twice on TV, I believe, before he hit his first in 2006 by going the treble 19 route. I think Sid and Gwynne expected him to go the 19s route, although it surprised me because I hadn't seen him go that way before, and he usually tried to leave double 18 as often as he could back then.
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Post by ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:20 pm

And Manley and Taylor missed the bull for 9ers in the late 90s. Would have to include those.
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ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pm Who came close to televised 9ers before Lowe did the first one?

And who came close during the rest of the 80s and also during the 90s?

Could we get a list of all 7 and 8 perfect darts televised up to 2010?

As it's become so common now, I think that after 2010 would be less interesting.

I know that Jocky made 7 perfect darts and 8 perfect darts at the World Champs. I think both were before Lowe hit his, weren't they?

And I know Priestley hit 7 perfect darts in one of the earlier WDC World Finals.

Did Bristow ever get close? It's the one thing that Lowe managed to get over him, balancing out their statuses somewhat. Well, I think so.

I started watching darts in the mid-90s, as a kid, so all the stuff from the 80s I've only seen by replay.

I recall Merv missed double 18 for a 9er at Lakeside. I recall quite vividly watching it live, although I've never heard anyone, especially Merv, mention it again. Can't find a video of it.

Seems that more players went the double 18 routes back in the day than the double 12 route, but switched to the double 12 route because most failed by going the double 18 route. e.g. Barney missed treble 15 twice on TV, I believe, before he hit his first in 2006 by going the treble 19 route. I think Sid and Gwynne expected him to go the 19s route, although it surprised me because I hadn't seen him go that way before, and he usually tried to leave double 18 as often as he could back then.
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Bristow threw 7 perfect darts once, can't remember the year
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coldbarrow wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:51 pm Bristow threw 7 perfect darts once, can't remember the year
It was 1985, there's a video of it on YouTube.
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Post by Ross, Bob » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:54 pm

coldbarrow wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:53 pm
coldbarrow wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:51 pm Bristow threw 7 perfect darts once, can't remember the year
It was 1985, there's a video of it on YouTube.
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Post by Cooking with Sanchez » Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:26 pm

Ross, Bob wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:54 pm
coldbarrow wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:53 pm
coldbarrow wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:51 pm Bristow threw 7 perfect darts once, can't remember the year
It was 1985, there's a video of it on YouTube.
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Post by PT13 » Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:25 am

ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pm Who came close to televised 9ers before Lowe did the first one?
Leighton Rees did a 10-darter against Alan Evans at the 1978 World Championship. At the time, it was big news.

ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pm I know that Jocky made 7 perfect darts and 8 perfect darts at the World Champs. I think both were before Lowe hit his, weren't they?

And I know Priestley hit 7 perfect darts in one of the earlier WDC World Finals.
Dennis Priestley had 8 perfect darts in the 1999 World Matchplay semi final against Rod Harrington. He narrowly missed the double 18. He blew about £25,000 with the miss.
ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pmDid Bristow ever get close? It's the one thing that Lowe managed to get over him, balancing out their statuses somewhat. Well, I think so.
Eric Bristow regularly said that he hit 7 perfect darts in a TV match about a dozen times, but he never hit the 8th perfect dart. The only 9-darters that Bristow hit were on the floor and in practice.

What was worse for Eric is that he and John Lowe used to have a prize money sharing arrangement, similar to what Phil Taylor and Dennis Priestley had from 1993-2000. The only problem is, Eric decided to end that arrangement in early 1984, before that October 1984 9-darter where Lowe won £102,000.
ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pmI started watching darts in the mid-90s, as a kid, so all the stuff from the 80s I've only seen by replay.

I recall Merv missed double 18 for a 9er at Lakeside. I recall quite vividly watching it live, although I've never heard anyone, especially Merv, mention it again. Can't find a video of it.
I believe the Mervyn King one that you mention was against Raymond van Barneveld at the last Embassy in 2003, a semi final. It was a very good match.

Some of the more obvious ones, which a lot of people who weren't fans at the time wouldn't know about, were Peter Evison at both the 2002 and 2003 PDC World Championships. Evison missed double 18 by a fraction against Richie Burnett at the 2002 World Championship (which would have been a £100,000 prize, at a time when the PDC World Champion got £50,000), and then Evison missed double 18 for a 9-darter against Wayne Mardle at the 2003 World Championship (which would have been a diamond worth a 6-figure sum). Evison blew a huge fortune with those two missed doubles.

The most outrageous attempt at a 9-darter was in the 1999 World Matchplay final. Peter Manley needed 144 to do the 9-darter against Rod Harrington. For the 7th dart, Manley hit treble 18; for the 8th dart, Manley hit double 20; for the 9th dart, Manley went for the bullseye and just missed it.

Other close ones were at the World Grand Prix at Rochester in 1998, when Phil Taylor was distracted by Sid Waddell's commentary noise in the final against Rod Harrington. Taylor was distracted after needing 161 and hitting treble 20 with the 7th dart, after Sid shouted "HE NEEDS TREBLE 17!!!". Taylor hit the treble 17, but then missed the bullseye. Phil later said to Sid "Don't worry about it. I hit the treble 17, I missed the bull on my own. Now, if you had shouted BULL!!! and I'd missed, I'd have bloody strangled you!". Taylor missed out on £25,000 with that miss, when the World Grand Prix champion at the time got £9,000.

Rod Harrington had 8 perfect darts himself against Phil Taylor at the 1999 World Grand Prix, in their semi final. He missed the bull.
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PT13 wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:25 am
ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pm Who came close to televised 9ers before Lowe did the first one?
Leighton Rees did a 10-darter against Alan Evans at the 1978 World Championship. At the time, it was big news.

ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pm I know that Jocky made 7 perfect darts and 8 perfect darts at the World Champs. I think both were before Lowe hit his, weren't they?

And I know Priestley hit 7 perfect darts in one of the earlier WDC World Finals.
Dennis Priestley had 8 perfect darts in the 1999 World Matchplay semi final against Rod Harrington. He narrowly missed the double 18. He blew about £25,000 with the miss.
ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pmDid Bristow ever get close? It's the one thing that Lowe managed to get over him, balancing out their statuses somewhat. Well, I think so.
Eric Bristow regularly said that he hit 7 perfect darts in a TV match about a dozen times, but he never hit the 8th perfect dart. The only 9-darters that Bristow hit were on the floor and in practice.

What was worse for Eric is that he and John Lowe used to have a prize money sharing arrangement, similar to what Phil Taylor and Dennis Priestley had from 1993-2000. The only problem is, Eric decided to end that arrangement in early 1984, before that October 1984 9-darter where Lowe won £102,000.
ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pmI started watching darts in the mid-90s, as a kid, so all the stuff from the 80s I've only seen by replay.

I recall Merv missed double 18 for a 9er at Lakeside. I recall quite vividly watching it live, although I've never heard anyone, especially Merv, mention it again. Can't find a video of it.
I believe King's was against Barney at the last Embassy in 2003, a semi final. It was a very good match.

Some of the more obvious ones, which a lot of people who weren't fans at the time wouldn't know about, were Peter Evison at both the 2002 and 2003 PDC World Championships. Evison missed double 18 by a fraction against Richie Burnett at the 2002 World Championship (which would have been a £100,000 prize, at a time when the PDC World Champion got £50,000), and then Evison missed double 18 for a 9-darter against Wayne Gobshite Mardle at the 2003 World Championship (which would have been a diamond worth a 6-figure sum). Evison blew a huge fortune with those two missed doubles.

The most outrageous attempt at a 9-darter was in the 1999 World Matchplay final. Peter Manley needed 144 to do the 9-darter against Rod Harrington. For the 7th dart, Manley hit treble 18; for the 8th dart, Manley hit double 20; for the 9th dart, Manley went for the bullseye and just missed it.

Others close ones were at the World Grand Prix at Rochester in 1998, when Phil Taylor was distracted by Sid Waddell's commentary noise in the final against Rod Harrington. Taylor was distracted after needing 161 and hitting treble 20 with the 7th dart, after Sid shouted "HE NEEDS TREBLE 17!!!". Taylor hit the treble 17, but then missed the bullseye. Phil later said to Sid "Don't worry about it. I hit the treble 17, I missed the bull on my own. Now, if you had shouted BULL!!! and I'd missed, I'd have bloody strangled you!". Taylor missed out on £25,000 with that miss, when the World Grand Prix champion at the time got £9,000.

Rod Harrington had 8 perfect darts himself against Phil Taylor at the 1999 World Grand Prix, in their semi final. He missed the bull.
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Post by ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld » Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:13 am

Greipel wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:31 am
PT13 wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:25 am
ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pm Who came close to televised 9ers before Lowe did the first one?
Leighton Rees did a 10-darter against Alan Evans at the 1978 World Championship. At the time, it was big news.

ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pm I know that Jocky made 7 perfect darts and 8 perfect darts at the World Champs. I think both were before Lowe hit his, weren't they?

And I know Priestley hit 7 perfect darts in one of the earlier WDC World Finals.
Dennis Priestley had 8 perfect darts in the 1999 World Matchplay semi final against Rod Harrington. He narrowly missed the double 18. He blew about £25,000 with the miss.
ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pmDid Bristow ever get close? It's the one thing that Lowe managed to get over him, balancing out their statuses somewhat. Well, I think so.
Eric Bristow regularly said that he hit 7 perfect darts in a TV match about a dozen times, but he never hit the 8th perfect dart. The only 9-darters that Bristow hit were on the floor and in practice.

What was worse for Eric is that he and John Lowe used to have a prize money sharing arrangement, similar to what Phil Taylor and Dennis Priestley had from 1993-2000. The only problem is, Eric decided to end that arrangement in early 1984, before that October 1984 9-darter where Lowe won £102,000.
ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pmI started watching darts in the mid-90s, as a kid, so all the stuff from the 80s I've only seen by replay.

I recall Merv missed double 18 for a 9er at Lakeside. I recall quite vividly watching it live, although I've never heard anyone, especially Merv, mention it again. Can't find a video of it.
I believe King's was against Barney at the last Embassy in 2003, a semi final. It was a very good match.

Some of the more obvious ones, which a lot of people who weren't fans at the time wouldn't know about, were Peter Evison at both the 2002 and 2003 PDC World Championships. Evison missed double 18 by a fraction against Richie Burnett at the 2002 World Championship (which would have been a £100,000 prize, at a time when the PDC World Champion got £50,000), and then Evison missed double 18 for a 9-darter against Wayne Gobshite Gobshite Mardle at the 2003 World Championship (which would have been a diamond worth a 6-figure sum). Evison blew a huge fortune with those two missed doubles.

The most outrageous attempt at a 9-darter was in the 1999 World Matchplay final. Peter Manley needed 144 to do the 9-darter against Rod Harrington. For the 7th dart, Manley hit treble 18; for the 8th dart, Manley hit double 20; for the 9th dart, Manley went for the bullseye and just missed it.

Others close ones were at the World Grand Prix at Rochester in 1998, when Phil Taylor was distracted by Sid Waddell's commentary noise in the final against Rod Harrington. Taylor was distracted after needing 161 and hitting treble 20 with the 7th dart, after Sid shouted "HE NEEDS TREBLE 17!!!". Taylor hit the treble 17, but then missed the bullseye. Phil later said to Sid "Don't worry about it. I hit the treble 17, I missed the bull on my own. Now, if you had shouted BULL!!! and I'd missed, I'd have bloody strangled you!". Taylor missed out on £25,000 with that miss, when the World Grand Prix champion at the time got £9,000.

Rod Harrington had 8 perfect darts himself against Phil Taylor at the 1999 World Grand Prix, in their semi final. He missed the bull.
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I have more reason to hate Smithy/Robson/the guy who's admitted to having opened multiple accounts on here more than you or anyone else. One of the reasons that I didn't bother joining in and just lurked for years is crap like this. I've joined because I genuinely want to discuss darts. Why don't you get a friend to open an account and see how many people really believe they are a genuinely new poster? It doesn't matter what anyone new who joins up says, nor how often they post; the default assumption now is going to be that they are some "Smithy multiple". Not without reason, though, as most accounts that have popped up for a fleeting time have been.

As I said a month or so back when I joined, this kind of crap has made it difficult for new people to join. I've done so though because I want to balance out that crap with genuine darts discussion that I have wanted to see on the forum, but haven't seen anyone bring up before, such as this thread, or the other one I created.

On this note, could the admins do something that makes all new accounts under some kind of 'new account' system? e.g., the first 100 posts are delayed until an admin approves them, or posters cannot create a new thread until they've posted at least 50 posts and had an active account for at least 3 months. Or something like that?
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PT13 wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:25 am
ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pm Who came close to televised 9ers before Lowe did the first one?
Leighton Rees did a 10-darter against Alan Evans at the 1978 World Championship. At the time, it was big news.

ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pm I know that Jocky made 7 perfect darts and 8 perfect darts at the World Champs. I think both were before Lowe hit his, weren't they?

And I know Priestley hit 7 perfect darts in one of the earlier WDC World Finals.
Dennis Priestley had 8 perfect darts in the 1999 World Matchplay semi final against Rod Harrington. He narrowly missed the double 18. He blew about £25,000 with the miss.
ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pmDid Bristow ever get close? It's the one thing that Lowe managed to get over him, balancing out their statuses somewhat. Well, I think so.
Eric Bristow regularly said that he hit 7 perfect darts in a TV match about a dozen times, but he never hit the 8th perfect dart. The only 9-darters that Bristow hit were on the floor and in practice.

What was worse for Eric is that he and John Lowe used to have a prize money sharing arrangement, similar to what Phil Taylor and Dennis Priestley had from 1993-2000. The only problem is, Eric decided to end that arrangement in early 1984, before that October 1984 9-darter where Lowe won £102,000.
ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pmI started watching darts in the mid-90s, as a kid, so all the stuff from the 80s I've only seen by replay.

I recall Merv missed double 18 for a 9er at Lakeside. I recall quite vividly watching it live, although I've never heard anyone, especially Merv, mention it again. Can't find a video of it.
I believe the Mervyn King one that you mention was against Raymond van Barneveld at the last Embassy in 2003, a semi final. It was a very good match.

Some of the more obvious ones, which a lot of people who weren't fans at the time wouldn't know about, were Peter Evison at both the 2002 and 2003 PDC World Championships. Evison missed double 18 by a fraction against Richie Burnett at the 2002 World Championship (which would have been a £100,000 prize, at a time when the PDC World Champion got £50,000), and then Evison missed double 18 for a 9-darter against Wayne Gobshite Mardle at the 2003 World Championship (which would have been a diamond worth a 6-figure sum). Evison blew a huge fortune with those two missed doubles.

The most outrageous attempt at a 9-darter was in the 1999 World Matchplay final. Peter Manley needed 144 to do the 9-darter against Rod Harrington. For the 7th dart, Manley hit treble 18; for the 8th dart, Manley hit double 20; for the 9th dart, Manley went for the bullseye and just missed it.

Other close ones were at the World Grand Prix at Rochester in 1998, when Phil Taylor was distracted by Sid Waddell's commentary noise in the final against Rod Harrington. Taylor was distracted after needing 161 and hitting treble 20 with the 7th dart, after Sid shouted "HE NEEDS TREBLE 17!!!". Taylor hit the treble 17, but then missed the bullseye. Phil later said to Sid "Don't worry about it. I hit the treble 17, I missed the bull on my own. Now, if you had shouted BULL!!! and I'd missed, I'd have bloody strangled you!". Taylor missed out on £25,000 with that miss, when the World Grand Prix champion at the time got £9,000.

Rod Harrington had 8 perfect darts himself against Phil Taylor at the 1999 World Grand Prix, in their semi final. He missed the bull.
Thanks, I'll have to see if I can find these. Should be able to find them with the information about the opponent.

I didn't know about Evison missing the double twice for 9-darters, nor Harrington. The commentators and Sky used to bring up Taylor missing the bull regularly, and show the video of it, so I knew about that. I only started watching PDC darts in the early 2000s. I didn't know about Priestley missing the double either. Probably Sky's Taylor bias. Although they used to mention and show Manley's attempt often in Matchplay promos, which is where I first saw it.

I didn't mention Rees' 10-darter because he hit a single 20 in one of his first three darts. Although you're correct, in terms of the number of darts thrown, that was the closest to a televised 9 darter before Lowe hit the first one, as far as I know.

Surprised that Eric never got closer than 7 perfect darts on TV, then. Given everything else he accomplished.
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ThirdBestPosterInTheWorld wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:13 am
I have more reason to hate Smithy/Robson/the guy who's admitted to having opened multiple accounts on here more than you or anyone else. One of the reasons that I didn't bother joining in and just lurked for years is crap like this. I've joined because I genuinely want to discuss darts. Why don't you get a friend to open an account and see how many people really believe they are a genuinely new poster? It doesn't matter what anyone new who joins up says, nor how often they post; the default assumption now is going to be that they are some "Smithy multiple". Not without reason, though, as most accounts that have popped up for a fleeting time have been.

As I said a month or so back when I joined, this kind of crap has made it difficult for new people to join. I've done so though because I want to balance out that crap with genuine darts discussion that I have wanted to see on the forum, but haven't seen anyone bring up before, such as this thread, or the other one I created.

On this note, could the admins do something that makes all new accounts under some kind of 'new account' system? e.g., the first 100 posts are delayed until an admin approves them, or posters cannot create a new thread until they've posted at least 50 posts and had an active account for at least 3 months. Or something like that?
If you didnt want to alert suspicion you probably shouldn't have created an account named after aforum reference from almost a decade ago.
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The Thorn wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:22 am You are fine mate but please consider shorter posts

Too much effort typing it all out when it counts all the same for the post count
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