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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by Randall » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:39 pm

wintergardener wrote:I imagine old Stoneface thought it was a load of bollocks at the time. And that Bob was a much better player than Scotty Dog every will be.
On the latter, he is spot on.
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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by Rogg » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:08 pm

BOB ANDERSON 180@BobAnderson180
@scottydogdart ....for those #darts fan that missed it!!!!

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Them dogs cost £7:50 an I’d already thrown 2 out that day an ran out was how it came about !!!!

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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by The Ginge Reaper » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:12 pm

Rogg wrote:BOB ANDERSON 180@BobAnderson180
@scottydogdart ....for those #darts fan that missed it!!!!

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Scott Mitchell@scottydogdart
Them dogs cost £7:50 an I’d already thrown 2 out that day an ran out was how it came about !!!!

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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by PT13 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:12 pm

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wintergardener wrote:I imagine old Stoneface thought it was a load of bollocks at the time. And that Bob was a much better player than Scotty Dog every will be.
On the latter, he is spot on.
Surely nobody disputes that? Bob Anderson was the best player in the world in the late 1980s. I think Eric Bristow saw him as a serious threat after their 1985 MFI World Matchplay final, which Bristow narrowly won. Anderson's 1988 World Championship win saw him consistently do high 90s averages, when technology was very inferior to today. He was playing as consistently well as peak Bristow at this time. And then there's the 3 consecutive World Masters wins, when you had to play every round as best of 5 sets (best of 3 legs per set) format. Anderson's record against John Lowe was excellent, winning something like 3 out of every 4 of their matches. Anderson was a World Championship semi finalist as late as 2004 and 2005, and beat official world number 1 Colin Lloyd at the 2006 World Grand Prix. As I recall, when Anderson left the PDC in 2008 in order to play in the League of Legends tour, he had just fallen out of the top 32.

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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by Kimmy » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:18 pm

PT13 wrote:
Randall wrote:
wintergardener wrote:I imagine old Stoneface thought it was a load of bollocks at the time. And that Bob was a much better player than Scotty Dog every will be.
On the latter, he is spot on.
Surely nobody disputes that? Bob Anderson was the best player in the world in the late 1980s. I think Eric Bristow saw him as a serious threat after their 1985 MFI World Matchplay final, which Bristow narrowly won. Anderson's 1988 World Championship win saw him consistently do high 90s averages, when technology was very inferior to today. He was playing as consistently well as peak Bristow at this time. And then there's the 3 consecutive World Masters wins, when you had to play every round as best of 5 sets (best of 3 legs per set) format. Anderson's record against John Lowe was excellent, winning something like 3 out of every 4 of their matches. Anderson was a World Championship semi finalist as late as 2004 and 2005, and beat official world number 1 Colin Lloyd at the 2006 World Grand Prix. As I recall, when Anderson left the PDC in 2008 in order to play in the League of Legends tour, he had just fallen out of the top 32.
Add in Scott Mitchell is a massive cunt and I will give this a +1

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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

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David Crew‏ @dmc1305 · 4h
I know, I do smile when I see that "Bob Potter Open" but I still prefer watching it than Ally Pally, think it's the magic of #Lakeside

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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by Tommo » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:52 pm

Jobber wrote:David Crew‏ @dmc1305 · 4h
I know, I do smile when I see that "Bob Potter Open" but I still prefer watching it than Ally Pally, think it's the magic of #Lakeshite
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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by Randall » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:31 am

Tommo wrote:
Jobber wrote:David Crew‏ @dmc1305 · 4h
I know, I do smile when I see that "Bob Potter Open" but I still prefer watching it than Ally Pally, think it's the magic of #Lakeshite
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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by Rogg » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:11 am

BBC America will be streaming it from the start then, before TV comes on board. They will show the whole PL too, apparently.

Interesting how it says 'World Darts Championship'. No mention of PDC.



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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by Rogg » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:38 pm

Surreal nonsense but Jeff! is on his way!


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Now leaving Toronto.. Next stop Ally Pally... Preparation has been good, had a couple extra days for weather and needed it. #PDCWorldChampionships

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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by M H » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:55 pm

Appears MvG's now 57th in the world rankings!

LakesideCountryClub‏ @LakesideSurrey · 10m10 minutes ago

The television broadcast schedule has been announced for the BDO Lakeside Darts championships. http://www.lakesideworlddarts.co.uk/a/schedule.php . The world's top 56 players compete for a £339,000 prize fund. #LakesideWorldDarts #Lakeside2018
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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by Dazzla501 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:59 pm

M H wrote:Appears MvG's now 57th in the world rankings!

LakesideCountryClub‏ @LakesideSurrey · 10m10 minutes ago

The television broadcast schedule has been announced for the BDO Lakeshite Darts championships. http://www.lakesideworlddarts.co.uk/a/schedule.php . The world's top 56 players compete for a £339,000 prize fund. #LakesideWorldDarts #Lakeside2018
Don’t know how they keep a straight fave typing that. A few players in the draw can argue to be in that bracket bit thats it. Even I got relatively close to qualifying once and I am shite!

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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by The Ginge Reaper » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:10 pm

M H wrote:Appears MvG's now 57th in the world rankings!

LakesideCountryClub‏ @LakesideSurrey · 10m10 minutes ago

The television broadcast schedule has been announced for the BDO Lakeshite Darts championships. http://www.lakesideworlddarts.co.uk/a/schedule.php . The world's top 56 players compete for a £339,000 prize fund. #LakesideWorldDarts #Lakeside2018
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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by sennafan24 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:46 pm

Oche and Mason getting desperate -
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Comparisons from 2003 onward are not reflective. The PDC field grew to 40 players in 2003, with the seeds only entering in round 2. From 2004-2005, the field grew to 56, and the seeds didn't enter until round 3. In 2006 the field expanded to 64. During this time, the BDO Worlds remained a 32 man field. If they want to compare averages during this period, then they would be better off comparing the tournament averages from the last 32 onward.

The fact that PDC Worlds was producing a higher tournament average by 2009 with a 64 man field, and therefore twice the games, says it all. By the mid-00's, the PDC was the stronger code. They always had the best player as well.
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:09 pm
Randall wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 pm Dulla has never faced anything like Taylor in top gear.
Maybe he could have dragged Taylor down, we will never know.

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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by Sin » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:56 pm

sennafan24 wrote:Oche and Mason getting desperate -
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Comparisons from 2003 onward are not reflective. The PDC field grew to 40 players in 2003, with the seeds only entering in round 2. From 2004-2005, the field grew to 56, and the seeds didn't enter until round 3. In 2006 the field expanded to 64. During this time, the BDO Worlds remained a 32 man field. If they want to compare averages during this period, then they would be better off comparing the tournament averages from the last 32 onward.

The fact that PDC Worlds was producing a higher tournament average by 2009 with a 64 man field, and therefore twice the games, says it all. By the mid-00's, the PDC was the stronger code. They always had the best player as well.
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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by PT13 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:27 pm

Most of the best players were in the PDC from the very start of the split in 1993. The original rebels contained nearly every previous TV tournament champion from the pre-split years. Of those that weren't one of the rebels, we had Dave Whitcombe who had gone into semi-retirement, Leighton Rees who wasn't playing tournament darts at the time, and Bobby George who stayed loyal to the BDO. Others were no longer playing.

What the BDO did have, at least until the mid 2000s, was a depth in the field. The PDC top players were more secure in their positions in the past, unlike in the last decade when they are always looking over their shoulders at players who could replace them. Still, there were exceptions to this even in the earlier period of the PDC, like how Shayne Burgess' form collapsed after early 2001, and after a one tournament resurgence to his vintage self at the 2003 UK Open, Burgess was gone from full-time darts. There was also Rod Harrington, who had a shocking 2002-2005 decline that was very fast indeed.

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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by wintergardener » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:38 pm

Comparing historical averages is all well and good, but to the general public, they know which World title is more important in 2017, and they know where they'll see the best players playing.

The "best of order" vs. "non-darts fans on the piss" is also a dead argument now too. We all know it.

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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by Sin » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:39 pm

PT13 wrote:Most of the best players were in the PDC from the very start of the split in 1993. The original rebels contained nearly every previous TV tournament champion from the pre-split years. Of those that weren't one of the rebels, we had Dave Whitcombe who had gone into semi-retirement, Leighton Rees who wasn't playing tournament darts at the time, and Bobby George who stayed loyal to the BDO. Others were no longer playing.

What the BDO did have, at least until the mid 2000s, was a depth in the field. The PDC top players were more secure in their positions in the past, unlike in the last decade when they are always looking over their shoulders at players who could replace them. Still, there were exceptions to this even in the earlier period of the PDC, like how Shayne Burgess' form collapsed after early 2001, and after a one tournament resurgence to his vintage self at the 2003 UK Open, Burgess was gone from full-time darts. There was also Rod Harrington, who had a shocking 2002-2005 decline that was very fast indeed.
Fascinating analysis, how many of the "grass roots county shit cunts" played at Lakeside before the Exodus ? I know Van Type II and the 4th Bee Gee had previously played at the BDO Worlds pre split.
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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by sennafan24 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:42 pm

PT13 wrote:The PDC top players were more secure in their positions in the past, unlike in the last decade when they are always looking over their shoulders at players who could replace them.
Most of the rebels were also on the decline when they switched, or about to enter one. Taylor, Rod, Dennis and Warriner being the exceptions. To have longevity, the PDC had to build their stable, which was obviously going to take a good few years. The BDO was naturally going to have more depth for a while.
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:09 pm
Randall wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 pm Dulla has never faced anything like Taylor in top gear.
Maybe he could have dragged Taylor down, we will never know.

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Re: Rogg's Twatter Watch

Post by Jobber » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:44 pm

sennafan24 wrote:Oche and Mason getting desperate -
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Comparisons from 2003 onward are not reflective. The PDC field grew to 40 players in 2003, with the seeds only entering in round 2. From 2004-2005, the field grew to 56, and the seeds didn't enter until round 3. In 2006 the field expanded to 64. During this time, the BDO Worlds remained a 32 man field. If they want to compare averages during this period, then they would be better off comparing the tournament averages from the last 32 onward.

The fact that PDC Worlds was producing a higher tournament average by 2009 with a 64 man field, and therefore twice the games, says it all. By the mid-00's, the PDC was the stronger code. They always had the best player as well.
Thought that belter would be on here. :mrgreen: The night before the worlds brings out the worst in them.

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