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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:14 pm

Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:11 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:09 pm
Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:08 pm Hagler v minter is a joy to watch
Which is remembered more for Hagler and his entourage being bottled after the match.
Hagler v Mugabi as well
Or sibson
What a warrior
Hagler v Mugabi was a cracker and Hagler v Duran wasn’t bad either. I see a bit of Leicester bias with Sibbo 🙂
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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:15 pm

I’ll tell you a great fight which you may or may not have seen and for any boxing fan, check it out
Dave Boy Macauley v Fidel Bassa ( 1st fight)
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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:17 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:14 pm
Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:11 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:09 pm
Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:08 pm Hagler v minter is a joy to watch
Which is remembered more for Hagler and his entourage being bottled after the match.
Hagler v Mugabi as well
Or sibson
What a warrior
Hagler v Mugabi was a cracker and Hagler v Duran wasn’t bad either. I see a bit of Leicester bias with Sibbo 🙂
Sibbo went 5 or 6 rounds with him
No mean feat
Mugabi was a beast
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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:17 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:15 pm I’ll tell you a great fight which you may or may not have seen and for any boxing fan, check it out
Dave Boy Macauley v Fidel Bassa ( 1st fight)
Doesn't ring any bells
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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:29 pm

Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:17 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:15 pm I’ll tell you a great fight which you may or may not have seen and for any boxing fan, check it out
Dave Boy Macauley v Fidel Bassa ( 1st fight)
Doesn't ring any bells
Both their fights won British fight of the year awards. The first one was a real cracker.
Actually AJ v Klitschko was a great fight and won the prestigious Ring magazine fight of the year.
Another classic was Ward v Gatti
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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:37 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:29 pm
Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:17 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:15 pm I’ll tell you a great fight which you may or may not have seen and for any boxing fan, check it out
Dave Boy Macauley v Fidel Bassa ( 1st fight)
Doesn't ring any bells
Both their fights won British fight of the year awards. The first one was a real cracker.
Actually AJ v Klitschko was a great fight and won the prestigious Ring magazine fight of the year.
Another classic was Ward v Gatti
I remember mcauley but his fights are a blank. I followed boxing pretty intensely up to probably 96 then drifted away.
In all truth I prefer watching the likes of Dempsey, johnson, marciano from years gone by
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Re: Boxing

Post by sennafan24 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:41 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:18 pm Oh dear,for someone who is a boxing fan, that’s a pretty stupid answer.
Of course Arum going to indulge in hyperbole, he will have to promote Fury again down the road. It's only common sense.
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Randall wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 pm Dulla has never faced anything like Taylor in top gear.
Maybe he could have dragged Taylor down, we will never know.

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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:44 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:41 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:18 pm Oh dear,for someone who is a boxing fan, that’s a pretty stupid answer.
Of course Arum going to indulge in hyperbole, he will have to promote Fury again down the road. It's only common sense.
It’s not just Arum and the rest of team Fury saying it though.
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Post by Randall » Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:48 pm

They just got over excited
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Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:29 pm

Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:48 pm They just got over excited
Nah, it will go down in history. I’ve just rewatched the highlights and I doubt Wilder will be the same fighter ( as in punch resistance) as he took a hell of a lot of shots.
AJ v Wilder would be interesting. AJ would run for 12 rounds bit if he got caught it’s fight over.
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Post by Randall » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:35 pm

More long count accusations
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Re: Boxing

Post by sennafan24 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:35 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:44 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:41 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:18 pm Oh dear,for someone who is a boxing fan, that’s a pretty stupid answer.
Of course Arum going to indulge in hyperbole, he will have to promote Fury again down the road. It's only common sense.
It’s not just Arum and the rest of team Fury saying it though.
Aye, and it was one of the best bouts in years.

My point is that it is in Arum's best interests to hype it up.
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:09 pm
Randall wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 pm Dulla has never faced anything like Taylor in top gear.
Maybe he could have dragged Taylor down, we will never know.

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Re: Boxing

Post by sennafan24 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:37 pm

Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:08 pm Hagler v minter is a joy to watch
+1

Can't stand Minter.
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:09 pm
Randall wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 pm Dulla has never faced anything like Taylor in top gear.
Maybe he could have dragged Taylor down, we will never know.

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Re: Boxing

Post by sennafan24 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:40 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:30 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:13 pm It was a classic fight.

I genuinely think Usyk has decent chance of beating Fury.
I can’t see it myself. Fury is too big and unlike AJ has a high boxing IQ he would use his size to his advantage. Fury and Usyk are my two favourite active boxers, but stylistically I think it would make for a poor fight.
It would be a very interesting chess match.

I think Usyk could knick it on points. He has superb cardio and is very adaptable.
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Re: Boxing

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sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:37 pm
Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:08 pm Hagler v minter is a joy to watch
+1

Can't stand Minter.
Why?
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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:43 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:40 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:30 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:13 pm It was a classic fight.

I genuinely think Usyk has decent chance of beating Fury.
I can’t see it myself. Fury is too big and unlike AJ has a high boxing IQ he would use his size to his advantage. Fury and Usyk are my two favourite active boxers, but stylistically I think it would make for a poor fight.
It would be a very interesting chess match.

I think Usyk could knick it on points. He has superb cardio and is very adaptable.
If he fights at high tempo and not allow fury to clinch all night fury is going be blowing
However the physical mismatch is too much for me
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Re: Boxing

Post by sennafan24 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:10 pm

Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:43 pm If he fights at high tempo and not allow fury to clinch all night fury is going be blowing
Exactly.

I admit that Fury is far better on the inside than Joshua. Joshua's clinch game has always been sub-par.
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Post by Randall » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:20 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:10 pm
Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:43 pm If he fights at high tempo and not allow fury to clinch all night fury is going be blowing
Exactly.

I admit that Fury is far better on the inside than Joshua. Joshua's clinch game has always been sub-par.
Clearly usyk has to be get inside and keep his arms free to attack furys body and bring his arms down before he can land with uppercuts
I'm not sure he is fast enough
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Re: Boxing

Post by sennafan24 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:22 pm

Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:20 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:10 pm
Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:43 pm If he fights at high tempo and not allow fury to clinch all night fury is going be blowing
Exactly.

I admit that Fury is far better on the inside than Joshua. Joshua's clinch game has always been sub-par.
Clearly usyk has to be get inside and keep his arms free to attack furys body and bring his arms down before he can land with uppercuts
I'm not sure he is fast enough
If anyone has the footwork and skills to do so at HW, it's Usyk.
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:09 pm
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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:24 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:22 pm
Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:20 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:10 pm
Randall wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:43 pm If he fights at high tempo and not allow fury to clinch all night fury is going be blowing
Exactly.

I admit that Fury is far better on the inside than Joshua. Joshua's clinch game has always been sub-par.
Clearly usyk has to be get inside and keep his arms free to attack furys body and bring his arms down before he can land with uppercuts
I'm not sure he is fast enough
If anyone has the footwork and skills to do so at HW, it's Usyk.
Be a more interesting fight than wilder.
Amazing how wrong he managed to get his tactics.
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