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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:10 pm

He is big strong and awkward
No doubting that
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Post by sennafan24 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:23 pm

Randall wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:51 am Fury is nowhere near as good as he thinks he is either
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:09 pm
Randall wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 pm Dulla has never faced anything like Taylor in top gear.
Maybe he could have dragged Taylor down, we will never know.

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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:28 pm

When I think of the all time greats I don't think of fury
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Post by sennafan24 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:47 pm

The late 90s version of Lennox Lewis would have beaten any version of Fury.
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Randall wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 pm Dulla has never faced anything like Taylor in top gear.
Maybe he could have dragged Taylor down, we will never know.

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Post by The Thorn » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:48 pm

Fury don't care about either of your opinions he got money to be set for life!
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Post by Randall » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:52 pm

I'm sure he doesn't
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Post by sennafan24 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:54 pm

Randall wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:52 pm I'm sure he doesn't
I'm still a Fury fan, even though I prefer Usyk.
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:09 pm
Randall wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 pm Dulla has never faced anything like Taylor in top gear.
Maybe he could have dragged Taylor down, we will never know.

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Post by Randall » Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:13 pm

Seeing usyk go about fighting him would be interesting with all the physical disadvantages
He lacks real destructive power
Can't see him hurting fury
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Post by 9farter » Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:37 pm

Fury is an imbecile but he knows how to entertain. Hope he smacks the shit out of Usyk.

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Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:34 pm

sennafan24 wrote:The late 90s version of Lennox Lewis would have beaten any version of Fury.
The fully focussed Manny Steward trained version of Lewis beats any heavyweight ever, the only exception being the mid 60s prime Ali.
Lewis was fucking awesome when he was on it. I had the privilege of being in attendance when he won the undisputed against Holyfield in Vegas. The reality was he did it earlier in 1999 at MSG but the judges made the worst decision ever in boxing.
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Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:34 pm

The Thorn wrote:
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:49 pm
Randall wrote:Fury is nowhere near as good as he thinks he is either
Disagree.
How do you know how good he thinks he is?
Have you ever heard Fury speak about himself before?
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Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:39 pm

Randall wrote:Seeing usyk go about fighting him would be interesting with all the physical disadvantages
He lacks real destructive power
Can't see him hurting fury
Usyk is my second favourite current boxer after Fury. He doesn’t have to hurt him to beat him, although I think Fury is just too big for Usyk and far smarter than AJ.
Usyk would beat many a heavyweight in history. Don’t forget many of the so called greats of yesteryear would be light heavyweights or cruiser weights today.
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Post by Randall » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:43 pm

'So called greats"
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Post by sennafan24 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:55 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:34 pm
sennafan24 wrote:The late 90s version of Lennox Lewis would have beaten any version of Fury.
The fully focussed Manny Steward trained version of Lewis beats any heavyweight ever, the only exception being the mid 60s prime Ali. Lewis was fucking awesome when he was on it. I had the privilege of being in attendance when he won the undisputed against Holyfield in Vegas. The reality was he did it earlier in 1999 at MSG but the judges made the worst decision ever in boxing.
This is probably the best post you've made on this forum.
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Randall wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 pm Dulla has never faced anything like Taylor in top gear.
Maybe he could have dragged Taylor down, we will never know.

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Post by sennafan24 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:56 pm

Usyk is the 200lbs GOAT.

Fury is also an elite level HW in terms of ability.

Both are ATGs in my opinion.
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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:21 am

Randall wrote:'So called greats"
You can’t honestly tell me that someone like Jack Dempsey beats Tyson Fury, the so called traditionalists might, but how does a man who would be a cruiserweight today at 6ft 1 get to Fury??
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Post by Randall » Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:01 am

Clearly he would be in a different class today but it doesn't diminish what he achieved or his status
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Post by Tommo » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:53 am

A prime Mike Tyson would beat the lot of them one after another in his dinner hour, while he was eating it.
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Re: Boxing

Post by sennafan24 » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:58 am

I'd also pick 88-90 Tyson over the current crop.
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:09 pm
Randall wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 pm Dulla has never faced anything like Taylor in top gear.
Maybe he could have dragged Taylor down, we will never know.

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Re: Boxing

Post by sennafan24 » Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:04 am

HalloweenJack wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:21 am
Randall wrote:'So called greats"
You can’t honestly tell me that someone like Jack Dempsey beats Tyson Fury, the so called traditionalists might, but how does a man who would be a cruiserweight today at 6ft 1 get to Fury??
Harry Greb and Henry Armstrong are greater than any of today's boxers. Any good historian will tell you that.

That said, Fury would probably beat any heavyweight pre-Ali.
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:09 pm
Randall wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:05 pm Dulla has never faced anything like Taylor in top gear.
Maybe he could have dragged Taylor down, we will never know.

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