Tennis Thread - That's an Ace

[Kimmy]

Murray putting up a good fight in his return.

[Randall]

Tough draw first up

[Randall]

Djokovic makes final at queens.
The men's game desperately needs him back at his best.
Wimbledon is as much a formality as the French.

[M H]

Djokovic makes final at queens.
The men's game desperately needs him back at his best.
Wimbledon is as much a formality as the French.

You mean as much a formality as Lakeside?

[Randall]

Djokovic makes final at queens.
The men's game desperately needs him back at his best.
Wimbledon is as much a formality as the French.

You mean as much a formality as Lakeshite?

Nothing is that foregone a conclusion.

[Kimmy]

Djokovic makes final at queens.
The men's game desperately needs him back at his best.
Wimbledon is as much a formality as the French.

No it is not.

[Randall]

Djokovic makes final at queens.
The men's game desperately needs him back at his best.
Wimbledon is as much a formality as the French.

No it is not.

A fit Federer wins.
Who do you envisage beating him?

[Kimmy]

Djokovic makes final at queens.
The men's game desperately needs him back at his best.
Wimbledon is as much a formality as the French.

No it is not.

A fit Federer wins.
Who do you envisage beating him?

Djokovic, Cilic and Nadal all have chances.

Not seen enough of Zverev on grass to tell.

And if Kyrgios can stay injury free he should go far at Wimbledon. He nearly beat Federer last week.

[Chizzyfan]

Nadal has little hope. Losing to the likes of Muller, Brown and Rosol shows his struggles with grass the last 4-5 years. I think, based on Federer's form at Halle, that Cillic or Djokovic wins it.

[Randall]

Djokovic makes final at queens.
The men's game desperately needs him back at his best.
Wimbledon is as much a formality as the French.

No it is not.

A fit Federer wins.
Who do you envisage beating him?

Djokovic, Cilic and Nadal all have chances.

Not seen enough of Zverev on grass to tell.

And if Kyrgios can stay injury free he should go far at Wimbledon. He nearly beat Federer last week.

Nadal has made no impact on grass for years.
Cillic after last year's embarrassment in the final no chance.
No way kyrios is beating Federer best of 5, nothing like the mentality required.
Djokovic has been way off for 12 months, hard to see.

[Kimmy]

Coric beats Federer.

[Chizzyfan]

Looks the real deal. Very good on grass. One wonders if the age is finally going to beat Federer soon. I give him one more year.

[Kimmy]

Looks the real deal. Very good on grass. One wonders if the age is finally going to beat Federer soon. I give him one more year.

Hope it does. Greatly prefer Djokovic.

[Chizzyfan]

I love the grace that Federer plays with but also appreciate the wall that Djokovic is when at his best. Think Djokovic is a better all-rounder than Nadal.

[Randall]

An argument for Djokovic as the goat is easy to make.

[Kimmy]

An argument for Djokovic as the goat is easy to make.

Has a winning record against all of the great players of his era.

Federer won a lot of his early grand slams against dreadful competition.

Nadal is still a bit too much of a one trick pony to be considered the goat.

Borg and Sampras have got to be considered.

[Randall]

An argument for Djokovic as the goat is easy to make.

Has a winning record against all of the great players of his era.

Federer won a lot of his early grand slams against dreadful competition.

Nadal is still a bit too much of a one trick pony to be considered the goat.

Borg and Sampras have got to be considered.

Pretty much the perfect summary.

[Randall]

Tennis is almost a different game now.
How you compare laver, Borg etc to the current crop i don't know.

[Kimmy]

Tennis is almost a different game now.
How you compare laver, Borg etc to the current crop i don't know.

Yep.

Could even go further back and put in people like Tilden and Lacoste. But it is impossible to really compare.

[Chizzyfan]

Goat is a silly argument in tennis. Too many variables. Anyone who has won multiple Grandslams especially over 10 is incredible. Bjorg probably could have won a lot more. Who knows what Djokovic would have won had he not hot the injury. However, the flip side of that is that the level he was playing at caused the injury.

Being a great isn't just about having 3 unstoppable years then being unable to reach a winning level again. It's about finding a level that you can win Grandslams at and not get injured by doing g it.

Obviously, some are unavoidable like what happened to Soderling. I have no doubt he would have won Grandslams but for the injury. Delpo would have won more as well, maybe around the same level as Murray.