FIFA's poppy stance?

[Dicie]

hahahah how are you , hope your ok and your pigeons are well

There in fine shape sir, hope the holiday went well......

yeah, im just killing 10 mins here to annoy the furious one, then i shall be off.

Iv no views at all on the poppy day, infact i think it is a nice way to remember family or loved ones that have died offering there lives for others.

Bit like st patricks day over here, honouring all them great irish heros that bombed london and the rest of the uk

[Noisycrowds]

yes thanks holiday great then come back to rain all bloody day

each to there own on celebration days , one mans meat etc

[Furious Wolfie 180]

hahahah how are you , hope your ok and your pigeons are well

There in fine shape sir, hope the holiday went well......

yeah, im just killing 10 mins here to annoy the furious one, then i shall be off.

Iv no views at all on the poppy day, infact i think it is a nice way to remember family or loved ones that have died offering there lives for others.

Bit like st patricks day over here, honouring all them great irish heros that bombed london and the rest of the uk

Baiting up well this morning.....

I'd suggest that alot of Irsh views similar to yours refect the gulit at the time of WW2 sitting on the fence springs to mind.
In fact you can say that Ireland was quite pro-active towards the Nazi's in the early days....until of course they realised they were loosing the war.....they suddenly became more helpful to the British.....suprise suprise.

[Dicie]

hahahah how are you , hope your ok and your pigeons are well

There in fine shape sir, hope the holiday went well......

yeah, im just killing 10 mins here to annoy the furious one, then i shall be off.

Iv no views at all on the poppy day, infact i think it is a nice way to remember family or loved ones that have died offering there lives for others.

Bit like st patricks day over here, honouring all them great irish heros that bombed london and the rest of the uk

Baiting up well this morning.....

I'd suggest that alot of Irsh views similar to yours refect the gulit at the time of WW2 sitting on the fence springs to mind.
In fact you can say that Ireland was quite pro-active towards the Nazi's in the early days....until of course they realised they were loosing the war.....they suddenly became more helpful to the British.....suprise suprise.

Walk around any english housing estate and speak to you're every day white family about the african/american family down the road, and tell me the nazis had it wrong.

As for sitting on the fence, why shud we fight another mans battles? Why should we back up a country that had tried (but failed) to destroy us.

As i said, it the nazis had it so wrong, why do so many brits hold the same opinions as them?

[Furious Wolfie 180]

hahahah how are you , hope your ok and your pigeons are well

There in fine shape sir, hope the holiday went well......

yeah, im just killing 10 mins here to annoy the furious one, then i shall be off.

Iv no views at all on the poppy day, infact i think it is a nice way to remember family or loved ones that have died offering there lives for others.

Bit like st patricks day over here, honouring all them great irish heros that bombed london and the rest of the uk

Baiting up well this morning.....

I'd suggest that alot of Irsh views similar to yours refect the gulit at the time of WW2 sitting on the fence springs to mind.
In fact you can say that Ireland was quite pro-active towards the Nazi's in the early days....until of course they realised they were loosing the war.....they suddenly became more helpful to the British.....suprise suprise.

Walk around any english housing estate and speak to you're every day white family about the african/american family down the road, and tell me the nazis had it wrong.

As for sitting on the fence, why shud we fight another mans battles? Why should we back up a country that had tried (but failed) to destroy us.

As i said, it the nazis had it so wrong, why do so many brits hold the same opinions as them?

Well i'm glad thats cleared that up...Nazi's had it spot on then...
My apologies....

[Dicie]

hahahah how are you , hope your ok and your pigeons are well

There in fine shape sir, hope the holiday went well......

yeah, im just killing 10 mins here to annoy the furious one, then i shall be off.

Iv no views at all on the poppy day, infact i think it is a nice way to remember family or loved ones that have died offering there lives for others.

Bit like st patricks day over here, honouring all them great irish heros that bombed london and the rest of the uk

Baiting up well this morning.....

I'd suggest that alot of Irsh views similar to yours refect the gulit at the time of WW2 sitting on the fence springs to mind.
In fact you can say that Ireland was quite pro-active towards the Nazi's in the early days....until of course they realised they were loosing the war.....they suddenly became more helpful to the British.....suprise suprise.

Walk around any english housing estate and speak to you're every day white family about the african/american family down the road, and tell me the nazis had it wrong.

As for sitting on the fence, why shud we fight another mans battles? Why should we back up a country that had tried (but failed) to destroy us.

As i said, it the nazis had it so wrong, why do so many brits hold the same opinions as them?

Well i'm glad thats cleared that up...Nazi's had it spot on then...
My apologies....

Were they wrong? If they were wrong surely there would be no racism in the UK?

Maybe people should lead by example, like you're football captain

[Furious Wolfie 180]

Racism existis in every country, it diddn't play a big part in why we went to war in 1939....not initally anyway.

Men who fought in WW2 for example wern't fighting for racism, they were fighting for freedom from the Nazis plans of a 1000 year reich.....
Hitlers persecution of the Jews wasn't the reason why we went to war in the first place...

[Dicie]

Racism existis in every country, it diddn't play a big part in why we went to war in 1939....not initally anyway.

Men who fought in WW2 for example wern't fighting for racism, they were fighting for freedom from the Nazis plans of a 1000 year reich.....
Hitlers persecution of the Jews wasn't the reason why we went to war in the first place...

Ah yes.

believe everything you read do you.

Just like thew war in iraq had fuck all to do with oil.

Ok furious, you believe the propoganda war machine lies if you want fella, its obvious to me we differ on this greatly.

Hail hitler.

[Furious Wolfie 180]

Hail Dice.....

Of course Iraq was about oil, some wars are more just than others though...WW2 for example.
That's where my thoughts will be on Sunday.....fuck knows where we'd be if the Nazi's has won WW2.

[Dicie]

Hail Dice.....

Of course Iraq was about oil, some wars are more just than others though...WW2 for example.
That's where my thoughts will be on Sunday.....fuck knows where we'd be if the Nazi's has won WW2.

Alot of tall, blue eyed, good looking blondes, instead of the fat toothless mong that was on jeremy kyle there

[Furious Wolfie 180]

Hail Dice.....

Of course Iraq was about oil, some wars are more just than others though...WW2 for example.
That's where my thoughts will be on Sunday.....fuck knows where we'd be if the Nazi's has won WW2.

Alot of tall, blue eyed, good looking blondes, instead of the fat toothless mong that was on jeremy kyle there

ok ok....you win

[gonk]

i will not be remembering the losses in the great wars on remembrance day, instead i will be using it as a more personal day of thought thinking of the lives of 3 close mates who i served with and have sadly passed during my time in the forces.

yes it is a good argument about where would be if the germans had won, (and my opinion is we didnt win the war, germany lost it, far too many critical errors made my hitler like invading russia and moving the tanks at normandy and stopping the bombing raid on our airfields but tough shit) is id take freedom over a nazi reich, yes we may have had a better economy, we may have had a better policy on immigration but in my eyes those are nothing compared to not speaking german, being led by a dictatorship and having freedom

[Furious Wolfie 180]

i will not be remembering the losses in the great wars on remembrance day, instead i will be using it as a more personal day of thought thinking of the lives of 3 close mates who i served with and have sadly passed during my time in the forces.

yes it is a good argument about where would be if the germans had won, (and my opinion is we didnt win the war, germany lost it, far too many critical errors made my hitler like invading russia and moving the tanks at normandy and stopping the bombing raid on our airfields but tough shit) is id take freedom over a nazi reich, yes we may have had a better economy, we may have had a better policy on immigration but in my eyes those are nothing compared to not speaking german, being led by a dictatorship and having freedom

Cracking post Gonk.

The 'what ifs' in WW2 are a subject i've debated countless times. Its fair to say that the Russians bore the brunt yet in the main its the Western campaign that most will be aware of.
Your right in saying that Hitler fucked it all up basically by not taking his commanders advice, we were almost fucked several times prior to Hitler invading the Russians.
North Africa for example was a key victory.....this should have firstly been Hitlers main objective rather than invaiding the Soviets...

[micko]

hahahah how are you , hope your ok and your pigeons are well

There in fine shape sir, hope the holiday went well......

yeah, im just killing 10 mins here to annoy the furious one, then i shall be off.

Iv no views at all on the poppy day, infact i think it is a nice way to remember family or loved ones that have died offering there lives for others.

Bit like st patricks day over here, honouring all them great irish heros that bombed london and the rest of the uk

Baiting up well this morning.....

I'd suggest that alot of Irsh views similar to yours refect the gulit at the time of WW2 sitting on the fence springs to mind.
In fact you can say that Ireland was quite pro-active towards the Nazi's in the early days....until of course they realised they were loosing the war.....they suddenly became more helpful to the British.....suprise suprise.

We should have fought against the people who murdered the innocents and oppressed nations with an iron fist.

[micko]

Does the poppy commemorate these British troops?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... leeve.html

[fandarts]

there is nowt wrong in rememebering your past-good over evil -good prevailed but paid huge losses of life and traumatic knock on effects for those involved, surely a national team wearing a flower to acknowledged those who made it possible for them to be where they are isn't too much to ask for fifa to allow? fuk fifa wear the flower anyway is my advice, you have to stand up for what you truely believe in.

[micko]

The lesser evil prevailed.

[Furious Wolfie 180]

Does the poppy commemorate these British troops?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... leeve.html

Hardly shocking news tbf, there were may traitors on all sides.
Many Irish Nationals signed up to fight for the British/Alies, god bless em.

[D & B]

Are there any soldiers alive today who fought in WW1?

[Randall]

no, last one died a year or so ago.

my grandads brother was killed in france in the last days of world war one, body never found.

people like that i will be remembering.