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Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:57 am
by vizIIsto
Hello guys!
I have a question here which is related to scoring.
It happened during my daily darts practice routine. I had this strange throw, where the third dart I threw was resting on top of a wire, but I could not see if the tip of the dart was touching the board or not. It didn't fell out because it rested on top of the other two darts: one was just above and one was well under.
How many points should that dart score?
I have made a few pictures, if you want me to show them I can show them, but if I can't determine from those pictures if the tip is in or not, I'm not sure if you can...
Thx in advance!! :geek:

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:18 am
by Randall
If it's not touching the board it scores nothing

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:30 am
by vizIIsto
Randall wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:18 am If it's not touching the board it scores nothing
I know about the rule that if the tip of the point is not touching the sisal, it does not score any points.
But I couldn't see if the tip was touching or not. Then what do I do?

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:39 am
by Emulsfier
If you are playing in competition then the ref would make a judgement call as to whether it is touching or not.

If its a freindly game, you and your opponent should decide. Depends how mean your opponent feels.

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:41 am
by Randall
vizIIsto wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:30 am
Randall wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:18 am If it's not touching the board it scores nothing
I know about the rule that if the tip of the point is not touching the sisal, it does not score any points.
But I couldn't see if the tip was touching or not. Then what do I do?
You have to make a decision one way or another.

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:55 am
by vizIIsto
I might as well show the images here, then you'll probably understand what I am talking about:
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I took these images from multiple angles but on none of them could I be sure if there was daylight between the point and the sisal... That's the question I am asking. What should a dart score if a referee can not possibly determine if the point is touching a certain area of the board or not?

Here's another photo but it is sideways because I took it with my phone upright :oops: :
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Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:05 pm
by Randall
If it cant be determined to be in the board it scores nothing.

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:09 pm
by vizIIsto
So this should score nothing?
Do you think it touches the board? I couldn't possibly tell the difference..

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:11 pm
by Randall
It looks like its clearly in the Board from the picture but if it cant be determined to be in the referee would score it zero.

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:14 pm
by vizIIsto
So you're saying that if it is impossible to see if the point is touching the board or not, it should be deemed 'not touching'?

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:19 pm
by Randall
Yes but it still look like a scoring dart.

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:28 pm
by vizIIsto
That's the discussion thing. I'm tending to that the point is resting on the wire and because of the other dart being in, it seems like the point is not in.
I mean, it was kind of a bouncer...

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:35 pm
by vizIIsto
I had a similar shot to this about a week ago. I was practicing bull shots and the first and second darts were bullseye and 25. I missed the bull completely and then tried to hit a 125. Then this shot happened:

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The dart is, like, stuck in between the point and the bullseye ring. I couldn't see if it was in or not because the point and the board pretty much obstructed a good view of any angle. I asked Worldwide Darts about his opinion and he said he thought it wasn't touching the sisal, so it's not counting. 75, therefore, and not 125?

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:43 pm
by Randall
Pretty much any opponent would accept it was 125.
Any one but toss Montgomery

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:45 pm
by vizIIsto
And Worldwide Darts.

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:53 pm
by Randall
Who looks that closely in a game in all honesty.
That would be called 125 all day long

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:59 pm
by StevieBoy
I wouldn't even question it looks like a scoring dart to me

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:01 pm
by Randall
StevieBoy wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:59 pm I wouldn't even question it looks like a scoring dart to me
Exactly

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:12 pm
by M H
Dear fucking God, who cares!

Re: Question about scoring

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:26 pm
by D & B
Wouldn’t happen if you played on regulation boards.